turbocad's custom fx

yeah man, the old transformer machines were monsters but the new inverter machines are awesome. I'm really loving my dynasty 200, but as I'm using it more & more I can see how a dynasty 350 would be the ultimate machine to have, but the 200 is really more than enough most of the time, if you want a nice compact top of the line tig it's hard to beat.

update? well, I've been practicing & practicing, but I've also had some problems along the way... the cold saw started to crap out & I had to wait for some parts which sucked up a few weeks down time, then I had to redo the whole fluid pumping setup again & built a custom stand to make it 100% contain the fluid without making a mess... working at home is not the same as working at the shop where mess & noise are a non issue

in the mean time I decided that my whole home garage workshop area was crap. one problem is, up until now I've only got one 15 amp 120v feed to the garage, AND the same circuit also fed my upstairs living room entertainment center too, so whenever I forgot to turn the heat off & started to tig the breaker would trip, sometimes just the startup of the compressor or my vacuum pump would even trip the breaker. breaker trips always lead to the same thing, try to find my way through the hallway to the panel in the dark, then wind up with all the clocks in all the entertainment & tv setup returning to blinking 12:00, this gets old pretty quick so I finally decided to get my electrician out to the house to see what can be done to add a new feed to the garage...


long story short this prompted me installing a new 100 amp 3 phase sub panel in my garage & completely redoing all new electrical & then redoing the whole garage itself, ripped all the old shelving & workbench & everything out & replaced everything, got a nice craftsman stainless steel worktop bench & kinda reorganized everything to make a better fabrication shop in the garage... I can now run the welder full bore in 220v 3 phase, while at the same time running heaters & compressors, 220v plasma cutters & anything else I can find to plug in a home without a problem, plus I redid the lighting as well... it's a better fab shop now for sure :smile (2): all just sucks up the weeks after weeks though & all just takes time...

far as stainless, wholey crap this is hard... man, welding a bead around this small ss pipe while not burning it, getting full penitration & a good weld is kinda like learning how to juggle meat cleavers while riding a unicycle while balancing a stack of books on your head... it sounds soo easy but actualy pulling it off well is extremely difficult

when I got my dynasty in september I thought I'd be welding up this ss pipe in a matter of weeks, probably the same way most guys that are new think there going to just pick up a torch & learn how to weld just like that... well this is way more challenging than I ever would have imagined, totally kicking my butt... I lost about a month to renovating & rewiring my garage to better facilitate this fabrication to finish building this car, but man, I can't tell you how many pieces of stainless steel I've had to cut, bevel, prep & weld so far to get to this point. before I started it would be hard to even imagine this could be so difficult & demanding... I can now see why it can take years to be proficient at this... man, it is not easy at all

here are a few of my latest progress shots...

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aiya said:
That looks crazy! Maybe it's time to just think about doing all the piping with PVC...
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Go turbo go! Man... this is one crazy build project. Cant wait what you will do AFTER this is all done with. Oh man, the possibilities

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Clearly, your ride is no longer really an Infiniti.... you need your own website & forum but, you can be the only member. Awesome work and details.
 
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ha, at least it's still pretty much all nissan :wink:

I'm about ready to build my headers, started on hammer forming the collectors & I think my welding is up to par enough to be able to do a more than adequate job... once the headers are done I can pick up where I left off in getting everything else together to get this thing running....

in getting closer I really started thinking again about what has to be done after it's running, my thoughts keep coming back to the tranny again. this engine will easily make 500hp & more, 600hp and more will probably also be very achievable with the right tune, the stock auto will fry itself pretty quickly once I start pushing even 450whp, so I guess at a minimum I should do a shift kit... that should tighten everything up & maybe allow me to go to the 450whp ok, maaaybe go near 500? well with 600 & better potential that would still be the weak link & still be something I'd be likely to break. I ain't building this thing to look at it, I'm the kind of guy that's going to fully beat the living crap out of it when it's done. the tranny is the biggest problem with building up a powerful awd...


I keep going back to the thoughts of wishing there was a transmission that will handle everything I can throw at it and that will keep the awd functional, I really love the nissan attesa awd & decided long ago that I won't give up the awd just to be able to have more power. anyone who's beat there fx in the snow or even got on it hard in the rain knows how awesome the awd system is....

so I started researching GT-R transmissions, I mean when it comes to high hp awd nissans the gt r's are the king... of course nothings going to fit directly, but maybe something can be made to fit?

in all my research I learned that first of all the new r35 gt-r tranny is really not an option, the r35 uses a rear trans axle assy which would require major vehicle reconstruction & still require like $30k+ in parts alone, r35 complete drivetrain swap won't be practical for a lot of years simply because in the end it'd be cheaper to just go out & buy a gt-r :tongue (2):

so now next best is what? well the r32, r33 & r34 skyline gt-r's... these things were beasts, it's common to see these things running 700, 800 900 & yeah even 1,000hp & more on the streets of Japan & Australia... the gt-r's were as legendary in there power handling capability as the toyota supra twin turbo's were... earning them the nick name Godzilla :smile (2):

more research & I learned that the r32 & the r33 both used about the same transmission for there stick awd, it's a 5 speed tranny & it's pretty strong, it's pretty much accepted that 700-800 hp is still ok with the 5 speed, but, when a skyline is built to really make a lot of power the most popular swap is to the r34 transmission...

the r34 transmission is THE tranny to have, it's a 6 speed & made by a company called getrag, & it just happens to be the exact same transmission that is in the toyota supra twin turbo's too, the guts are the same & are even interchangeable between the 2. these trannies are regularly paired up with 1,000hp or more builds... now that sounds like a tranny that would be perfect for my fx... there rare, hard to find & expensive, but there legendary in where it matters most, power handling..

well searching around & reading around, the more I read the more I knew that the getrag 6 speed is the ultimate nissan awd tranny & the more I really really wanted one...

anyway, I winded up finding one... also found a 5 speed so I now have the getrag 6 speed and the nissan 5 speed sitting in my shop. the fun just got funner:tongue (2): funnier?, oh well, more fun at least:smile (2):



the one pictured test fit against the g37 motor is the 5 speed, the one above it is the 6 speed getrag unit...

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heres 2 video's that kinda show what these trannies can do:smile (2):




YouTube - Nissan Skyline R32 Vs TVR

on the first video, watch the way this thing power drifts starting around the 1:30 mark... I want my fx to be able to do that :tup:




on the second video the car is launching on awd, notice the slicks all around, but you can still control the center diff & leave it open for a burnout :smile (2):

these transfer cases differed from ours in that they use a hydraulic clutch instead of an electric clutch that we use... hydraulic can give more clamping force & is why these things can survive a full on awd launch even with big power...

YouTube - One of the Fastest GT-R in the World
 
No no no no........just stop right now....!! Stop putting more and more of these ideas into my head John. I cannot take it.....and my wallet agrees :laugh:
Just lett me use my oem tranny modified and enjoy my Maxxed 450 WHP......and don't lett me think of any more possibilities to increase that.
This has to be said.......your a FX feeder :wink (2):

So you did another research...?? At first when reading your topic i thought why not read Jumbo's thread and learn about the posibility of our tranny, but when thinking that i also though i couldn't imagine you haven't being all over that already.
So AWD yes.....?? but automatic.....no...??
Is that the reason why you went for the Skyline tranny in stead of a G tranny wich rookie did...??
Do doe transmission housing fit our ( or my for that matter ) VQ35DE engine straight away......so direct bolt on...??
And Rookie had to modify his center console as the G tranny was diffrent in lenght....did you figure out the difference with the Skyline tranny in that also...??

Great work buddy......proud of you :tup:
 
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WOW - Speechless...

50 pages of great material - TC6 your perseverance and dedication to your projects is amazing! "if it's worth doing at all then it's worth doing right..." is reiterated throughout your projects (and projects within projects). I'll be watching for more updates on this endeavour but anticipate it will never be "done" in your eyes, just more steps towards the vision you have for a truly one of a kind modded ride!

Simply Inspiring - now if I can just find the right FX to call my own so I can put some of this motivation to good use!
 
:smile (2): thanks man, 50 pages, that's a lot of reading... Ive said it before too but I think I just type too much :tongue (2):

ray, man, sorry to corrupt you bro. honestly the best approach with modding the awd fx if you don't want to go nuts is to just shoot for around that 4-450 range of power. around 400 is doable without building the motor & just adding a shift kit... this really should be enough for most people... it's when you want to go past this that everything jumps to a much more extreme level... built motors & even built transmissions, but that will only give you ~another 100hp worth of room... to try & run 500-550 or more on an awd auto tranny on a heavy vehicle like this is just asking for trouble... the problem with automatics is 1 thing really... heat... coolers & shift kits & raising line pressures can only do so much, as the power level goes up the heat generated goes up too... this will eventually kill the tranny & this also kinda sucks power out of your engine too... it's converting hp to heat....

this is the first Japanese car I've ever really got into hot rodding... before this I was an american car kind of guy... building an automatic for those cars was easy... & they could be built to handle extreme power levels no problem... never had to consider going to a stick just to be able to handle the power... these nissan trannies are not the same man... automatic is never going to allow you to make really big power unless were talking about an r35 transaxle, but as I already said, no where near practical yet...

stick in the 4-450 range... it's the most sane thing to do.

these trannies I bought will not bolt up to any vq35, weather it's a de or an hr... there originally for the rb26dett's & the bell housing is not the same as any vq. I will most likely need to buy a 350z bell housing & cut this tranny's bell housing off as it's one piece with the transmission housing, then I'll need to weld the 350z bell housing to the getrag tranny... this is not something easily done & I bet most wouldn't want to buy a $4k tranny & then cut it in half:tongue (2): just not so normal really I guess, so don't even think about doing this!!! there, did that help you any man?? :wink (2):

one thing is, if you did happen to decide to look for one of these getrag 6 speeds you'd probably have an easier time finding one there in the uk than it is to find one here in the usa... cheapest prices I've found on the getrag 6 speeds seem to be in japan itself where you can probably get one in the $2,500 range... in the us they seem to be in the $3,500 range & better, bout the same as the supra getrag 6 speeds really... nissan also sells a new r32/33 upgrade kit to upgrade to the getrag 6 speed, includes a clutch & drive shafts as there a bit different, but the kit is like $11k...

5 speeds on the other hand are still pretty strong & are much more common & are available dirt cheap, I also picked up one just for the hell of it to see what it would take to also convert it to vq use... something like this may be a bit more practical than the getrag & would be a nice option for any FI awd if it's not so difficult to pull off...

the nice part about using a tranny like this is, now with the HR engine, I'm thinking of eventually building up that 3.7 liter block that I bought, lower the compression ratio a bit & put stronger rods & crank... then I can easily run 700-750hp & the engine & tranny can take it all no problem without even pushing the jagged edge... my turbo's & my whole build is designed to the 700-750 power range anyway, would just need to strengthen the engine a little to keep it bulletproof in the kind of range... the trick to bulletproof is to have everything built to be way stronger than necessary... if the tranny & block are good to 1,000hp then they'll be pretty bullet proof at the 700 mark... that's all a bit down the road though, first step is to get the hr swap completed in the first place:smug:

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oh, & as far as the stick position compared to the original console position, I won't know that till it's in but I consider that to be the very least of the problems :smile (2):
 
the tranny will sit on the side until the whole hr turbo conversion is finished built & running & driving & also until after everything else I'd need is collected too. I'm going to run & drive it automatic until it's fully ready to just swap out to the 6 speed. it might be automatic for a while too... I do still need to collect a lot of other stuff for this swap to happen, getting the transmission is only the first step.

this transmission conversion shouldn't affect the downtime of the fx too much I think, the big downtime now is all in the main swap & turbo build & fabrication, once it's running I would like to drive it a bit & work out whatever bugs I can. the tranny will take a lot of fabrication but it can all happen on the side & while the fx is driving. I might even consider putting a decent tranny cooler & doing a shift kit in the mean time just to try & make the auto live a bit & survive until the manual conversion is ready, but I guess I won't be so worried about breaking the auto at that point too, knowing I got this being prepped & getting ready for insertion anyway:smile (2):
 
turbocad6 said:
on the second video the car is launching on awd, notice the slicks all around, but you can still control the center diff & leave it open for a burnout :smile (2):
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JUN made a R34 that put down 1100 HP to the wheels... it was a MONSTER... this was before the days of YOUTUBE so I'm not sure if it's on there somewhere but the mag I read about it in... the writers were watching them get it ready... the JUN guys somehow cracked the software for the ATTESSA and could dial in any bias they wanted... so they dialed it at 100% rear and did a nice burnout... then the writers said they saw something they had never seen before... the JUN guys dialed in full 50/50 and did a 4 wheel burnout... I didn't do it justice but the way they wrote about it... wished I could have seen it...
 
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