stellanti
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- Location
- Allston, MA
Thanks EG3! So it looks like I will go with the H&R DRS 20mm all the way around. I wont experience any issues with fitment with the 20" stock wheels, will I?
Thanks,
Steve
Thanks,
Steve
Spacers with Stock Wheels
- Thread starter Keemo
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20mm spacers with stock 20's will be fine.
- Location
- Boston, MA
As Jeff said, there won't be any issues at all.. There's plenty of space both vertically and horizontally from the fenders before you experience any kind of rubbing.. You can't see from my picture but even with 20mm it's not completely flush with the top.
When you get the spacers installed (or install them yourself), make sure the centering ring is perfectly centered. Basically, if you can turn it with your hand easily or move it around even about 1mm, it will cause a slight vibration. You can get rid of it using teflon tape or electrical tape.. Just let us know if you experience that (hopefully not)..
stellanti
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- Location
- Allston, MA
infx35
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- Location
- Massachusetts
- Car
- 2015 Q50S AWD
Just to confirm...I have been on H&R 20mm spacers since the first month of owning my '07 and over a year on my prevoius '03.
Never experienced any problems...go for it!
Never experienced any problems...go for it!
stellanti
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- Location
- Allston, MA
Thanks for your advice! I am still on the fence about this one. I am concerned about the following:
1. Vibration at any speed
2. Tires kicking up road-grime all over side of car
3. With an H&R 20mm DRS style kit, will I need to modify the bolt length?
Please help me off the fence....
Thanks guys!
Verify the offset with a ruler and a straight edge. I have the H & R's and I'm also installing spacers, until i can find a set of wheels I can't live without. The front wheel sets in slightly deeper than the rear. It looks like perfect spacer combination with stock 20's is 25MM front and 20MM rear. check it out.
- Location
- Westchester, New York
- Car
- 09 FX50
I've had on my H&R 20mm spacers on for a while!
there is no vibration from the spacers unless you installed them incorrectly..otherwise it's your wheels that need balance and/or rotating...
the tire-kicking-up-grime thing is not that bad at all. the only noticable thing is like when it's raining or there's snow on the ground, or if you;re in mud...if you turn your wheel the tires will kick up stuff...and yes, a little more stuff gets kicked up in general too. but it's not like your tires are 6789inches out the side of your car...they are basically flush with the fenders. of course, I have the little mudflap things so without them it twould probably be worse...but whats the fun of owning a car if you don;t clean it
you will love the way this simple modification changed the stance and look of the car. especially paired with some springs....
- Location
- Boston, MA
How mechanically adept are you? If you're fine/comfortable at changing wheels, here are some answers:
1) If you ever experience vibration, it'll be due to centering of the spacer. Resolving this is not hard. Here are the steps:
- Jack your car & put it on jackstands (or just keep it on the jack but jackstands are more secure)
- Take off your wheels (or one wheel at a time)
- Slide out the spacer
- Use basic electrical tape as a space filling tool around the hub. Just roll one single layer of tape and make sure it doesn't overlap or wrinkle anywhere
- If the space is tighter than electrical tapes thickness (like in my case), you can use teflon tape
- Carefully put pack the spacer making sure you don't move the tape
- Tighten back
- Drive a while and re-torque the nuts
2) With 20mm, your tires won't be that much moved out. Tires will still be inside the top of the fenders but the bottom will be slightly outside of the bottom of the fender. If you don't have mudflaps, you're likely to get more dirt (probably not stones though) at the bottom section of your front doors. If you're concerned about that, 15mm spacers instead of 20mm will tuck the wheels inner.
3) The H&R kit will come with extended length studs. You won't need to modify anything. Only if you get Ichiba V2 style spacers, you need to shorten the stock studs to fit it UNLESS you get that spacer in 25mm.. Personally, I went through all and getting "regular" spacers with extended studs is the best choice..
Btw, you can always sell the spacers a little less than the same price you got them on my350z.com and g35driver.com. I sold 4 sets of Ichibas so far so don't worry about it that much..
IF you don't have confidence on yourself to do the tape wrapping thing (the only skill you need is the ability to change a wheel) I say skip spacers and save for an aftermarket wheel with a better offset (ET 25-30).
stellanti
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- Location
- Allston, MA
I like that idea... but can you do that??? 25mm up front and 20mm in rear? Will that have any effect on the AWD system?
jdm_is_best
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- Location
- bay area
here's a good 1: will 25mm (on all fours) work w/o rubbing? gonna install h&r soon.... mod it to rookie's spec (cut fronts) and will be rolling on stock 20s... pls lmk
- Location
- Santa Clarita, CA
- Car
- 2005 FX45
You should be fine unless you are going to use wider tires with the stock wheels.
The Ichiba 20mm v2 spacers work with stock wheels - the studs penetrate into the wheel recess an don't touch. It's possible with some variation in length you might need to file down the end of the stud - but I didn't have to. The v2 spacers don't require any longer studs. Straight bolt up, so they are really easy to install.
After using these spacers for a few weeks, I'm fine with the look, but I would much rather just get some custom wheels that have the right offset and sit exactly the way I want them to look - rather than using spacers at all.
If there is any chance you will want to go to custom wheels in the future, do your best to avoid spacers that require you to swap out studs, since you will probably have to swap them out again later. Since the studs are press fit into the hub, taking the studs out and putting them back in again sort of messes with the metal in the hole. Doing it more than once can mess with the hole shape and center. When I swapped out studs, the new ones didn't press in perfectly straight and true and they caused a steering wheel vibration at certain speeds. I ended up buying new hubs (come with the original OEM studs) just so I could get rid of the vibration. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have pressed new studs in. I would have just waited until the "right spacer" for my needs was available.
So it really comes down to your long term goals. If you are sticking with stockers forever - then pretty much any spacer will work for you. If you know you might change in the future, do your best to maintain the OEM hub/studs.
SlightlyStoopid
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- Location
- Denver, CO
- Car
- 2003 fx45
So are we all in agreement that the best and safest setup is either H&R 20mm DRS or ICHIBA 20mm V2? Both of them being through bolt set ups?
I'm worried about the weight of the vehicle sitting on just the aluminum spacer and press fit studs. Well, I wasn't, then someone had to mention it.
I'm worried about the weight of the vehicle sitting on just the aluminum spacer and press fit studs. Well, I wasn't, then someone had to mention it.
- Location
- Portland, OR
I'm posting this here because I think the title of this thread is the most descriptive...
Here's a post from another thread showing 25mm spacers with H&R springs and 20" stock wheels:
...and here are a couple pics of my FX with 20" stock wheels, H&R springs, and 20mm spacers in the back. (No spacers up front)
Size comparison, from left; OEM lug nut, OEM wheel stud, ARP extended wheel stud, H&R 20mm DRS spacer.
Here's a post from another thread showing 25mm spacers with H&R springs and 20" stock wheels:
West Covina Service Tech quoted me for $400 for the install...I went with LMS bit cheaper. I didn't get to take some pics of the whole car but here's slight idea of how 25mm spacer looks
...and here are a couple pics of my FX with 20" stock wheels, H&R springs, and 20mm spacers in the back. (No spacers up front)
Size comparison, from left; OEM lug nut, OEM wheel stud, ARP extended wheel stud, H&R 20mm DRS spacer.
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- Location
- Toronto, Canada
- Car
- 2008 fx35 AWD
im also worried about this also. i got a 08 fx35. gonna have stock 18 inch rims on. whats the best way to go? dont want to cut any bolts.
So I got H&R springs installed on my FX and have Lexani 22" rims for the summer. I'm thinking of getting 20mm or 25mm spacers to flush the rims. The question I have is when I switch to winter rims if I would need to take off the spacers or if they won't be flushed with the fenders.
