bc racing 09+ coilovers for the FX's in the making!

baias6230 said:
The question is not how but when?
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I hope they don't take too long developing something to fix this.
We have waited forever for lowering springs, now we need something to keep our ride's alignment within spec.

I have just over a 1" drop with the Eibachs and I can't get my cambers within spec.
My rear camber is out the most at -2.31 degrees (Spec is -1.67 to -0.67 degrees).
My front camber is -1.27 degrees (Spec is -1.08 to 0.42 degrees).
I am going to get my alignment re-checked today.

The more you drop it, the greater the negative camber will be.
 
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I tought that the problem is at the front not at the back... Can't they be alligned closer to stock settings on the back without the camber kit, Wayne?
 
baias6230 said:
I tought that the problem is at the front not at the back... Can't they be alligned closer to stock settings on the back without the camber kit, Wayne?
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The back is the worst one Baias and that is the best they could get it and this is at highly rated performance shop that does a lot of suspension/performance work.
Those were the results when I first had them installed. I am going in again today (it's a 2.5 hour drive to the shop) and they will check it again after I have had the Eibachs on for a month.
 
So it seems that we need camber kits in the front and also in the back. How does this translates to tire wear? It is that bad or it's noticeable but neglectable?
 
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Someone said toe kills tires more than camber I thought? I should measure my rears sometime to see how they are.
 
the reason the front is affected like the rear on the 09 up is because they are now using upper & lower control arms in the front as well as the rear. the first gen fx's used a McPherson strut, no upper control arm, & could be dropped a whole lot & it just comes down pretty much straight. also much easier to tweak if necessary with just camber bolts...

the new fx will need custom adjustable control arms made for it to really drop more than just a little... I just checked the fx suspension against the g's & the m's, not the same, fx is all by itself in these parts, so nothing already available from other cars would work...
 
Seems like if you want a drop, but don't want a lot of camber, springs are the way to go..for now
 
no matter what is used, spring or coil over, it's all going to be directly related to the amount of drop... as it lowers it will camber in more & more...
 
Ahh I remember now. The guy who installed my coilovers was jelly when he saw we didn't have a UCA.
 
turbocad6 said:
no matter what is used, spring or coil over, it's all going to be directly related to the amount of drop... as it lowers it will camber in more & more...
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That's what I mean.. Negative will always be induced, but if you want to minimize it go with springs (as the drop is ~1"). Something will likely be developed to correct the issue in the future for coils, but that just adds to the cost of the setup..
 
there is benefits & drawbacks to each design... McPherson strut: obviously a benefit cause it can drop a lot without affecting camber, BUT, from a handling point of view the McPherson strut is a crude design because it allows no additional camber on compression.

as the vehicle rolls & is forced through a turn the camber does not increase with a McPherson strut. this actually a big benefit for the later suspension design, it does add camber as it compresses which aids handling, unfortunately dropping the static ride height is equivalent to compressing the suspension, so of course it does increase negative camber even as a static drop in ride height... when the arms are available end result will be the new fx will handle better than the original though, all else being equal of course..
 
mrlerry said:
hopefully spc or someone can test the 2nd gens and release something for us...
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I am really hoping something is available soon to fix our camber with the drop. If I don't find anything soon, my Eibachs will be off and I will be back to stock in the next 4 weeks.
 
mrlerry said:
is your eibachs now too negative camber?
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Yes, I thought I could live with it, it handles so well, but I can't afford to go through tires, my shop said it will be very hard on the tires and it needs a camber kit. In June I plan on going for a 6 week run in the FX, we will have it loaded down with luggage and gear, this will be weighing the back end down more, which in turn will cause even more negative camber. I will be doing over 6,000 miles on that trip.
 
oh no...i think i've been wearing down my tire pretty fast too, alot more than the stocks but if these coils come out i might have to drive on stock tires on a daily basis...
 
So you notice yours wearing Lerry?
I was hoping with the milder drop of the Eibachs our alignments would stay within specs. This is soooo frustrating, we'll have to start bugging SPC and Eibach for kits for our rides otherwise it's hopless to drop our rides and drive them..
 
So if the negative camber is pretty bad on tires from the eibachs, Hollywood must be chewing up his 24s pretty quick and that's not cheap . Didn't think it would be much of a big deal. When I call Kevin at allsprings ill see if he can put a word in with h&r and see if something can be made to correct it.

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Jmess86 said:
So if the negative camber is pretty bad on tires from the eibachs, Hollywood must be chewing up his 24s pretty quick and that's not cheap . Didn't think it would be much of a big deal. When I call Kevin at allsprings ill see if he can put a word in with h&r and see if something can be made to correct it.

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Hard to chew through my tires when I never really have my car. In the past 12 months, she's been gone a total of 6.... Iv blown a tire, but have yet to shred them down. I'll check them out once I get it back to see how things stand now. Iv got something going with Megan racing for some potential coil overs as well for all of us, but won't know anything until I get my car back & get it over to them. Megans based out here in SoCal, so I'm hoping working with them will be easier. I also thought that about Eibach, & we all know how that turned out.....SMH!

It would really be BS if we all waited this long to ride lower just to have the side effect be that we blow through tires every 10,000miles! I only average about 10k with tires without having that issue, so I REALLY hope we find a solution. Fingers crossed on BC (I'm down for a group buy if the terms are right) or Megan racng coming through for all us 2nd Gens!
 
judging from how slow the springs and coilovers are being developed for the 2ndGen FX, I think it wouldn't surprise me if ANY camber kit is EVER developed....
 
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