turbocad's custom dual/quad headlight mod

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hey guys, I guess some of you have seen my custom headlights in my fx thread, & I know many here have really liked the look of them, but as I mentioned in my thread, building dual bi-xenon motorized headlights is an extreme amount of time & labor & building them for others would also mean an extreme amount of money, don't think too many would want to consider spending over $2,000 for a set of headlights no matter how sick they are. I am not a fan of the stock crystal looking inner dtrl in stock form & this is one mod that I have been contemplating from day one with my fx...

well, since I built them, I have been thinking of a way to get this same kind of dramatic & beautiful look without the extreme amount of labor involved for you guys, & in experimenting & chopping up quite a few sets of headlights, I have come up with a way to build dual projector headlights without anywhere near the extreme amount of labor mine required.

my new design is all contained within the original headlight housing, so it is a bolt in affair, direct replacement to the original fx headlight, requires no alteration to the fx at all to use these lights & is reversible at any time.. it is NOT a true dual bi-xenon setup, as the inner projector will not fit a xenon light in this configuration without additional fabrication, but it has the appearance of a true dual projector. the inner projector is illuminated by the dtrl bulb, & of course a brighter multi led bulb can be used here too.

I also have been playing with inner led illumination on these projectors themselves, & the effect is pretty unique, it kinda has the new M35 look to them, with multiple lit dots around the projector. this is OPTIONAL & is not required or included in the basic build of these lights, but is a nice custom touch for those who would want this too, & can be done on either the inner or outer projector or both.

I am starting this thread to try & gage interest in these & for those who haven't seen them in my thread to see them, I am building a few sets of these already & will have a few to sell, but I have an opportunity to buy even more headlights so I can build even more of these if the demand is there for them.

I have calculated the amount of labor it takes me to build these & I can build these lights, in the basic chrome finish for a total of $400 LABOR complete... add to this 2 sets of headlights that are required to build these & the price for a basic pair of these, in the existing chrome finish would be $600 outright, no cores or return of your headlights required. I could also accept your GOOD USED, NEVER OPENED virginal headlights as a core & you would receive $100 credit for each pair you send me, so if you sent me 2 good sets it would cost you just $400 plus shipping to have a set of these. I'm sorry, but I WILL NOT work with any headlights that have already been opened, painted or whatever, only unopened original headlights are eligible as cores, considering you'd have to pay to ship your lights to me it may be more cost effective to sell your lights else ware, but I can accept yours if you choose to do so, I will have good clean cores on hand to build these with initially so your lights are not really necessary at this point.

now, as far as options, one option that I think many would want is blacking out the headlights, for blacked out headlights add $75 to the cost for them to be professionally media blasted to de-chrome & then refinished in black. other custom finishes can be done too, anything from 2-tone to body color etc..., any inquiries & pricing there will be on a case by case basis. another option is the LEDs inside the projectors, those will cost $50 a pair installed, the LEDs alone cost $15 each, so $30 a pair, then $20 to epoxy them in & wire them, so to do the LEDs on all 4 projectors would be $100 additional total, $50 a pair X2. then we also have the option of tinting the lenses, either smoked or even color tinted if you want, all headlight tinting would be done from inside the lens, so it is durable & permanent, tinting would start at $60 a pair for a basic smoked tint. every pair of lights I'll build will be polished on the outside for a nice clean scuff free lens & the headlights will look good as new, since there tinted inside the tint can't be scratched & any future scuffs can just be polished out on these lights without harming the tint. all headlights are going to be sealed with extra sealant added to insure a leak free light capsule too.


now, I don't know what guys thoughts are on this, I don't know if a lot of guys will definitely want these, or if most will think this is just way to much money to spend on headlights, I can answer for myself in saying that I have already spent thousands myself in buying a lot of sets of headlights & cutting them up & working on lights for myself, all to get a unique & custom look, but that doesn't mean others would feel the same, so I'm really trying to Gage interest here & weather you guys think this might be something you'd want. I do know that there are some custom light shops that build much more expensive headlights & taillights for the G & Z crowd, but what about the fx crowd? what do you think?


first 2 shots shows how the dtrl sits behind the projector. the sides will be sealed off so there will be no light leakage outside of the projector:


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and this is about what the basic chrome assy will look like:

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now, this is a few shots of what the inner LEDs will do to these projectors... they are very bright & very noticeable, even though your really only seeing a reflection of the LEDs which are internal. in these shots the area around the inner shroud is still open so you see light leakage but this will not be the case in the final design. these are shots from my headlights & you can see that the bezels are not quite the same, mikne required the iner shroud to be pushed in a lot where this new design is more symetrical & even

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this is what the LEDs look like inside the housing, if these are installed but not turned on you wouldn't even know they were there....



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don't mind the black you see on those test bezels, that is NOT what the final black finish will look like :cool:








now I really think I am pricing these as fair as I can considering the amount of time & resources I would have to put into these, I am not a factory so these will still be kinda limited in quantities, they are all hand built by me, lead time is hard to say but I would try to prepare several at the same time to make it more efficient, lmk what you think, my feelings won't be hurt if many don't think there worth the $$$, everyone can't be as nuts as I am :tongue:

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loving these lights man, i want you to work on mine, im going to get the cost for shipping to ship it to you :cool: and i think the price is fair, its alot of time and work to put into that design
 
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Bro i'm beginning to think of you as a pioneer on the east coast!!!!!!! keep it up!! i would def be stoping by your shop!!!
 
seems like a good price to me. i cant wait to see some finished and mounted, and i bet more people would see that and want them. i bet that is what will happen to me.
 
Ok put me on the list..

if a deposit is needed let me know John..

I want to be the first on the west coast..:uhhh::tongue::wink::wub::laugh:

1. HumbertoCALI (Blacked out with Led halos..)
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OK, heres the deal. I'm already building a few of these right now.

I think there is enough interest that I feel comfortable building some more.

I have a deal with someone to buy a batch of 12 sets of headlights which will allow me to keep them at $100 core each without all the shipping hassles, so this is what I will start with as one batch. that means 6 sets of these, that will be the first run & I will build all 6 sets at the same time to make it more efficient. I should have these 12 sets of lights this weekend.

I will start building these weather the list fills up or not, all options such as LEDs, colors & tinting happen to wards the end anyway, so I have no problem doing all the prep work, cutting & building before hand, then can finish them as requested.


I am also working on trying to use an aftermarket xenon light in the inner projector. I will use a kit like what is normally used to add xenon to your fogs. this will require a shield inside of the inner projector to still give a sharp cut-off like the OE projectors. I will include this shield setup in every set so I can calibrate focus & adjust for them, so even if a set is ordered as-is with the inner projector just illuminated by the DTRL you will always have the option of upgrading later yourself to a xenon setup in this inner projector. with that, light output of the headlights overall will be increased & this would become more than just a visual or cosmetic mod but a performance mod too. I can also offer them with the xenon upgrade included, but I'm really trying to keep these as cost effective as possible too which is why I'll set it up to be able to add that later if desired.

so first run is 6 sets available. I'd expect these to be ready for delivery in about a month or so for me to build all 6 sets. one month is not set in stone but I don't think it would go much beyond that. I'll trust everyone hear on there word so I will not require a deposit from anyone until I have them mostly completed & am ready to add the personalization options to each set such as color choices, tint if any & options, at that point I Will require a deposit, then the balance would be due when they are ready to ship & not before.


I don't want anyone to feel obligated but several have already expressed interest & they will have the first right of refusal to be included in this list, feel free to either move yourself to the official list or remove yourself from the interested list too. they are, in no particular order:


1. Jeff
2. Dave
3. Robb
4.Ashley(didn't want to be presumptuous & just include you in the official list on your "I want" post:tongue:


again, that^^^ first list has first rights of refusal, but no one is obligated to anything unless they want them, as most on this interested list were there before the price was even announced.

then the official list of the 6 eligible for these:



1. HumbertoCALI (Blacked out with Led halos..)
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as I build the first batch & I see interest here I can collect more lights to gear up for a second batch if the demand is there. I will not take any orders unless I am ready for them, so for now this 6 is it, if you don't make it on this list of 6 I think the opportunity will be there later for these too, but as of right now these 6 are the ones I'll be committed to & guarantee availability, past these I will see how it goes.

any of you who know me knows that I'll stand behind anything I do for you guys, so of course all of my work is going to be guaranteed. you will not receive a piece of junk, what you will receive is a quality reliable set of headlights that I'm confident each & every one of you will be very happy with. about the only thing that I can't be 100% sure of is the durability & long term affects of these LEDs, as I do not have any in service for any long length of time.I have one set burning continuously 24/7 in my garage for over 7 weeks now as my own test & they are still all fine. LEDs have a useful life of many thousands of hours so I do expect them to last years without issue, BUT, in the event that these do start failing in a year or so, my policy will be to reimburse you for the cost of the LEDs. you will be able to disconnect the LEDs & the headlights will still be 100% functional & cosmetically perfect, unlike the angel eyes we all know & love, once they start failing then the headlights can look like crap, that won't happen here as these LEDs are hidden & if there off/disconnected then they take nothing away from the appearance.


I WILL NOT assume the responsibility of having a bunch of these being shipped back to me to replace LEDs as this would easily cause this whole endeavor to be a huge loss for me. I do however have every reason to believe that these LEDs will last for years. my guarantee on the LEDs portion of these will be for 1 year & reimbursement for the cost of the LEDs alone, realize that I am just buying them & installing them, if I had to offer any more warranty than this then I would have to jack up the price in anticipation of possible recalls down the road. if you don't agree to any of this part then either don't get the LEDs or don't buy my lights. if I really believed these will fail then I wouldn't be doing them, but I really do think they'll last for years which is why they'll be in my car too, LEDs are expected to have a useful life of many thousands of hours as I've said before & I doubt there will be any issues, but I don't like to promise on something that could be beyond my control or knowledge too, this is part of how I always keep my word without excuses, by being careful of what I do actually promise:tongue:
 
I am sorry if I missed it, but what are the prices or pricing options? Do you want a down?
 
& I was only interested in Black painted insides only. While the LED customs are awesome, I dont do much driving at night, so they rarely get turned on. I really just want what I have without the dust inside. (sorry for the confusion)
 
I am sorry if I missed it, but what are the prices or pricing options? Do you want a down?

I believe $400 for the basic chrome set if you provide 2 sets of good, oem lights. If John provides them, the basic set will be $600 and $75 for blackened/colored housing. Don't know if leds come with that though..
 
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I have calculated the amount of labor it takes me to build these & I can build these lights, in the basic chrome finish for a total of $400 LABOR complete... add to this 2 sets of headlights that are required to build these & the price for a basic pair of these, in the existing chrome finish would be $600 outright, no cores or return of your headlights required. I could also accept your GOOD USED, NEVER OPENED virginal headlights as a core & you would receive $100 credit for each pair you send me, so if you sent me 2 good sets it would cost you just $400 plus shipping to have a set of these. I'm sorry, but I WILL NOT work with any headlights that have already been opened, painted or whatever, only unopened original headlights are eligible as cores, considering you'd have to pay to ship your lights to me it may be more cost effective to sell your lights else ware, but I can accept yours if you choose to do so, I will have good clean cores on hand to build these with initially so your lights are not really necessary at this point.

now, as far as options, one option that I think many would want is blacking out the headlights, for blacked out headlights add $75 to the cost for them to be professionally media blasted to de-chrome & then refinished in black. other custom finishes can be done too, anything from 2-tone to body color etc..., any inquiries & pricing there will be on a case by case basis. another option is the LEDs inside the projectors, those will cost $50 a pair installed, the LEDs alone cost $15 each, so $30 a pair, then $20 to epoxy them in & wire them, so to do the LEDs on all 4 projectors would be $100 additional total, $50 a pair X2. then we also have the option of tinting the lenses, either smoked or even color tinted if you want, all headlight tinting would be done from inside the lens, so it is durable & permanent, tinting would start at $60 a pair for a basic smoked tint. every pair of lights I'll build will be polished on the outside for a nice clean scuff free lens & the headlights will look good as new, since there tinted inside the tint can't be scratched & any future scuffs can just be polished out on these lights without harming the tint. all headlights are going to be sealed with extra sealant added to insure a leak free light capsule too.


dave, no problem man, we can talk about just doing a black stock set for you, I will have my work cut out for me on working with these 12 sets of lights at the same time, but I'll be able to do something for you, I'll follow up soon with a pm :wink:
 
OK, I'm just formatting what is above so it doesn't look like an essay :smile:


reposting the section on pricing:

-In the basic chrome finish for a total of $400 LABOR complete...
-In the existing chrome finish would be $600 outright, no cores or return of your headlights required.
-I could also accept your GOOD USED, NEVER OPENED virginal headlights as a core & you would receive $100 credit for each pair you send me, so if you sent me 2 good sets it would cost you just $400 plus shipping to have a set of these.
- I'm sorry, but I WILL NOT work with any headlights that have already been opened, painted or whatever, only unopened original headlights are eligible as cores,

-now, as far as options:
-for blacked out headlights add $75 to the cost for them to be professionally media blasted to de-chrome & then refinished in black. other custom finishes can be done too, anything from 2-tone to body color etc...,
-another option is the LEDs inside the projectors, those will cost $50 a pair installed,
-to do the LEDs on all 4 projectors would be $100 additional total
-then we also have the option of tinting the lenses, either smoked or even color tinted if you want.....tinting would start at $60 a pair for a basic smoked tint.

I removed the stuff that he's gonna do an awesome job as we already know that part.. :tup:
 
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