Why 1st Gen FX35 is so much slower than 2nd Gen FX35?

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carguy75 said:
I read that the FX45 0-60 time is only 6.3 seconds. I believe that is wrong. The car mag who tested it back in 2003 had a dud. Mines have dusted cars listed as 6.0 seconds and faster. You can shave a few tenths of seconds off the 1 gen FX45 1/4 times, by changing out the platinum sparks plugs for some iridium spark plugs and change the dino oil over to synthetic oil. I noticed that most newer nissans are using iridium plugs stock now over the platinum plugs due to better performance and mpgs, I assume it is the same for Infiniti since they are the same company. My 2004 FX45 runs like a beast with only those two changes and by losing those horrible goodyear tires for some yokohomas tires.The second gen FX35 can not beat a FX45 in a race.The FX50S, no doubt can, but not the FX35. I have handed a driver of a 2nd gen FX35 his ass on the highway. The look on the driver's face was priceless.:smug: P.S. yes that driver was trying his hardest to past me on the highway straight aways, twice. He learned that hard way not the mess with the 45. The older FX45 pulls like a horse in third gear, the newer FX35 has more gears in the transmission than the FX45, but not as much low end torque. The second gen was a nice looking FX35 though, a black one. The driver may even be on this forum.
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I totally believe at highway speed and higher gear, when the gear ratio advantage is gone for many newer cars with less potent engines, FX45 can easily smoke them with its powerful V8. I have driven a gen 2 FX35 once (Hertz somehow upgraded my requested mid-size SUV to FX35) and found that at highway speed, without the intention of shifting the gear myself (so no manually downshifting to lower gears), the car doesn't really pull stronger than my 1st gen FX35 when I tried to pass. So I can totally see you smoking the gen 2 fx35 on the highway. However, I don't think it will be the case of the stoplight to stoplight racing. It is just pure physics that the shorter gear ratio make more force on to the ground, and there is a roughly 26% advantage for the first two gears for the gen 2 FXs. That's why to get both...I need an FX50........going to see a few used tomorrow since Columbus day is a holiday in my company....but not at my daughter's day care....
 
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Hahaha, I see you put the title you received to good use right way! FX50 will be good fit for your situation! :good:
 
I agree. One late night on my way home, I got on the tollway and I was behind this G37 sedan. As the lane opened up, I took off, blew past him and he could not even catch up to me, not even close. He was definitely trying for sure. As maxed out on the mods as I am, my 45 is fast and I'm not even done tuning it yet. :ninja:


carguy75 said:
I read that the FX45 0-60 time is only 6.3 seconds. I believe that is wrong. The car mag who tested it back in 2003 had a dud. Mines have dusted cars listed as 6.0 seconds and faster. You can shave a few tenths of seconds off the 1 gen FX45 1/4 times, by changing out the platinum sparks plugs for some iridium spark plugs and change the dino oil over to synthetic oil. I noticed that most newer nissans are using iridium plugs stock now over the platinum plugs due to better performance and mpgs, I assume it is the same for Infiniti since they are the same company. My 2004 FX45 runs like a beast with only those two changes and by losing those horrible goodyear tires for some yokohomas tires.The second gen FX35 can not beat a FX45 in a race.The FX50S, no doubt can, but not the FX35. I have handed a driver of a 2nd gen FX35 his ass on the highway. The look on the driver's face was priceless.:smug: P.S. yes that driver was trying his hardest to past me on the highway straight aways, twice. He learned that hard way not the mess with the 45. The older FX45 pulls like a horse in third gear, the newer FX35 has more gears in the transmission than the FX45, but not as much low end torque. The second gen was a nice looking FX35 though, a black one. The driver may even be on this forum.
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"Area under the curve". The old saying "hp sells cars, torque wins races" still applies. Although you might rephrase "transient response and area under the curve makes daily drivers phenomenal".

A 4cyl w a big turbo can make 350 peak hp easily. A small v6 w vvti may only make 330hp. But the torque curve is vastly different. I hadn't looked at dyno plots for our v6s but I have driven all the variants extensively (vq, high rev, 3.7) and that is what they were improving is torque curve. Peak hp is just a side benefit that sells cars.
 
Speaking of 0-60's, I somehow lost against a Toyota Tundra today.
My FX will be in timeout for the time being.
 
g0ldm4g3 said:
Speaking of 0-60's, I somehow lost against a Toyota Tundra today.
My FX will be in timeout for the time being.
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i lost to a f150 on the highway a while ago lol. from a 120km roll. i was in auto so maybe it didn't downshift and stayed in 5th? needless to say im mad haha
 
Now that I think about it, the truck did have stickers on the back... so maybe it was modded?

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zebra555 said:
^Was it a 5.7L Tundra?


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Yup, it was a 5.7L!

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Viperi said:
i lost to a f150 on the highway a while ago lol. from a 120km roll. i was in auto so maybe it didn't downshift and stayed in 5th? needless to say im mad haha
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LOL I lost to an F-150, as well. Can't remember if it was a raptor because this truck was lifted and it was the newer models.
Also, the kid went to one of my rival high schools and apparently he has a very modded truck.
As for looks, everything was blacked out except the license plate and bumper... but even the bumper was black chrome.
 
tchuck said:
There's a supercharger kit for those 5.7 Tundras...
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Watch out for Tundras and Titans. There is huge aftermarket support for those trucks and a lot of them are sleepers. When I had my 35, I just barely, barely beat an F-150. It could've had the Ecoboost or V-8, not sure, but it was very fast and he knew he would keep up with me.

Viperi said:
yea i know but seems so weird a pickup truck lol. jsut doesn;t wrap around my head :P
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All the torque these pickups have and their torque to weight ratio.
 
AeroBFA said:
Watch out for Tundras and Titans. There is huge aftermarket support for those trucks and a lot of them are sleepers. When I had my 35, I just barely, barely beat an F-150. It could've had the Ecoboost or V-8, not sure, but it was very fast and he knew he would keep up with me.
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I bet you don't have that problem anymore since you upgraded to the V8 as well huh? :cool:

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I am a die hard 1st Gen lover. I would take the 2nd gen interior with the 1st gen exterior any day. I had high expectations when I drove the 50s a while back and was actually disappointed in the performance. Everything else was amazing, all of the appointments, luxury ect.... But I still had a huge smile when I hopped back into my 97. MUCH more fun to drive!! My 03 was a little more "rough", more road noise, less options and AWD but I loved that thing too. My heart still aches a bit when I see one..l which is very often here is DFW.
 
g0ldm4g3 said:
Speaking of 0-60's, I somehow lost against a Toyota Tundra today.
My FX will be in timeout for the time being.
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Hehe. Our shop is in Denton...we all drive Tundras. The owner drives a black double cab that is 100% stock with the factory supercharger option. He dynod it at around 460whp. As a comparison out FXs make about 260whp. We weigh within 15% of each other. He beats turbo 2drs on the strip on a regular basis. Runs low 13s I beleove.

FXs are nice cars. When I walk out in the morning I grab the keys to my FX the majority of the time. But it's not cause its my fastest car lol- in fact it's my slowest!
 
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