Too good to be true????

Darkside

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So im looking on ebay (item number 260289803242) and i see a few different chips that claim to boost hp (some up to 100 hp) and increase mpg. Has anyone ever tried any of these chips and dose anyone know if they really work. if so what were the results? +100 hp seems a little far fetched to me.

What do you think???
 
highly doubt they work. dont some say like +25 mpg? now we all know that wont happen. basically, most of the stuff out there is not legit. best to just stick to stuff you've heard of.
 
Some superchargers that cost thousands of dollars wont get you 100 horsepower. Its impossible for these fake items to do it. Something that costs $15 wont do anything for your car.
 
Pulled directly from that eBay auction you referenced:

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Notice the right hand column of the first graph... AFR changes from 10.25 to 11.5 (it's the red and blue line that start out at the top left and end up at the bottom right)

The reason for this steep drop is because when cruising, your ECU wants to maintain as close to stoich (stoichiometric) which is roughly 14.7 parts air for 1 part fuel, or 14.7:1

Under heavy load (flooring the gas pedal or climbing a steep hill, etc) this stoich mix can easily lead to detonation, which is why the ECU, upon sensing your foot slamming the pedal, will dump an over-compensating amount of fuel through the injectors to not only match the new throttle position, but overcome it to avoid detonation under these high loads.

Your gas pedal only changes the position of the butterfly valve in your throttle body (whether by wire or cable... the VQ motor and most newer motors use what's called drive-by-wire, where an electrical signal repositions the throttle instead of an actual cable connecting the throttle to your gas pedal) and the MAF (mass air flow) sensor sees a surge of air and tells the ECU, which in turn signals the injectors to increase flow.

The O2 sensors also read out the resulting AFR from the exhaust (in our car these O2 sensors are in the headers) and give feedback to the ECU to let it know that there's been proper fuel added for the extra surge of air. Another set of O2 sensors at the end of each cat simply tells the ECU that the catalytic converters are doing their job in lowering emissions. These do not affect the operation of the motor in any way, but rather give a fault code if it doesn't see the catalytic converters doing their job.

So, to sum it all up, you're leaning out this mixture that Nissan engineers have spent thousands of hours perfecting to ensure longevity of your motor. These "Green Earth" guys spent $0.74 on some wiring, resistors and a neat sticker to go on their plastic case that just leans out your motor.
 

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Oh and lastly, the reason for maintaining stoich conditions during light load or "cruising" is because it is the most lean you can go without endangering the motor's internals with constant knock. The more lean you go, the more power and the better fuel economy... at the price of engine damage or increased wear.
 
please fvck me Green Earth!
Good to know we'll all be doing our part to save the earth by buying these :eek:
Go Grreeeeen baby
 
These kind of loosers are preying on people's ignorance and skinny wallets to make a quick buck....pathetic!!!
 
Chronic Chip

See this thread sounds like same thing.
Chronic Performance Chip - InfinitiScene.com
 
we all should buy them and give all negative reviews. LoL.
if it is <$5 i would not mind to give this guy a feedback like "Beware. My engine has to be repaired. this is stupid. My $45,000 car's engine is damaged"
:)
 
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