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the rears are more expensive, they need everything the front needs, plus they also need to include the 2 rear knuckles which are around $400+, then theres 2 backing plates too. then you still need my balljoint adapters that might be ~$50 or so, then, another thing to keep in mind is, the rears are more expensive to install because of the knuckle swapping necessary, not just a caliper & rotor swap... def still worth it, but not as huge of a value as the front, & not as much actual functional value either, rears are more for aesthetics & look to match the front... for strictly performance just the fronts are the best bang for the buck, but the rears are def sweet too...
 
We've got 20x8.5 OZ Michelangelo II's on our '05 FX35. It needs brakes. Does this FX50 set require spacers for stock wheels only or any thoughts if they'll work for us? Thx
 
We've got 20x8.5 OZ Michelangelo II's on our '05 FX35. It needs brakes. Does this FX50 set require spacers for stock wheels only or any thoughts if they'll work for us? Thx

What offset are you running? The 15mm spacers I used gives out the min clearance you'll need over stock 20" wheels.
 
offset is not as important as the shape inside the wheel. I think they were 8.5ET38 but would have to ask to be sure (since the order conf doesn't list offset).
 
offset is not as important as the shape inside the wheel. I think they were 8.5ET38 but would have to ask to be sure (since the order conf doesn't list offset).

If you think without the proper offset you'll clear the 50 brakes, you'll be sorry afterwards... Your wheels need to have an extreme bend to the edge to clear it with just the spoke shape. Also, at it's 8.5 size, your wheels already have 4 mm less inner clearance than the stockers. No way that's going to clear. 19mm is not a small distance to pass with the spoke shape. Plus, as far as I know Michelangelo IIs have a pretty similar spoke profile to the stockers:

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WTF does inboard clearance have to do with fitting OVER a brake caliper? Seriously? Go back and read what you wrote (and congrats on using the wheel offset apps online).

The ONLY things that matter for BBK clearance are spoke shape, space between the wheel pad and spoke faces (the pocket) and of course the outside diameter of the caliper itself fitting within the barrel.

My other car has Brembo's...I'm aware of making stuff happen.
 
WTF does inboard clearance have to do with fitting OVER a brake caliper? Seriously? Go back and read what you wrote (and congrats on using the wheel offset apps online).

The ONLY things that matter for BBK clearance are spoke shape, space between the wheel pad and spoke faces (the pocket) and of course the outside diameter of the caliper itself fitting within the barrel.

My other car has Brembo's...I'm aware of making stuff happen.

Go ahead and try it out rather than asking questions and NOT respecting others if you know that much. And save your fucking attitude to yourself will you? :mad:
 
Go ahead and try it out rather than asking questions and NOT respecting others if you know that much. And save your fucking attitude to yourself will you? :mad:

save it to myself? Do you mean 'keep it to myself'? <head asplode>

I asked a fair question and got a neophyte answer in return, masquerading as an informed answer.

This site used to be full of informed users. I see that's changed
 
EG, maybe you should keep your adventurous beta testing mods to yourself, rather than helping everyone out that hasnt tried & tested. Sheez . . I recall the bump for pics, . . but you can PM them to me rather than sharing on this really unhelpful board we have here . . . you you you neophyte!

neophyte Noun

a novice in a religious order [Greek neos new + phuton a plant]

I thought you were Turkish :laugh: . . . Christian or Catholic?
 
save it to myself? Do you mean 'keep it to myself'? <head asplode>

I asked a fair question and got a neophyte answer in return, masquerading as an informed answer.

This site used to be full of informed users. I see that's changed

And I answered to your question as good as it can be. I have the FX50 brakes on my FX with stock 20 inchers and 15mm spacers. The brakes are so close to the spokes that you can't slide your pinky finger between them. Your wheels are wider and have around the same offset with a similar spoke design. Plus, it looks like the face is pushed a bit more to the inside as well. That means you will need to run spacers.

Good enough for you?

Now here's a little info on offsets:
- On wheels with the SAME/SIMILAR spoke design (like yours and the stockers) a smaller offset will push your wheels to the outer edge and will give you more caliper clearance
- A larger offset on wheels with the SAME/SIMILAR spoke design, you wheels will tuck inside and will give you less caliper clearance
- You're right on that spoke design dictates the caliper clearance more than offsets but you're disregarding the fact that we're talking about a 15mm difference here. Your wheels need to have narrower/thinner spokes AND an outward curving spoke design which you DON'T have.

Finally, if you don't know how to argue/discuss then please don't.
 
come on now gto! The guy replied with wheel fitment data instead of brake fitment data. How is that helpful (beyond taking the time to reply at all)??

stock wheel size on my car with Brembo's is 18x8.5 but 17x7.5 will clear just fine depending on wheel shape, width and offset. Heck, 17x7 works too if you ignore fender positioning.
 
EG, maybe you should keep your adventurous beta testing mods to yourself, rather than helping everyone out that hasnt tried & tested. Sheez . . I recall the bump for pics, . . but you can PM them to me rather than sharing on this really unhelpful board we have here . . . you you you neophyte!

neophyte Noun

a novice in a religious order [Greek neos new + phuton a plant]

I thought you were Turkish :laugh: . . . Christian or Catholic?

A simple phone pic coming in 2 mins.. Just to show the clearance..
 
does it appear to you that I lack these skills? if anything, I have an overabundance. :tup:

really?

WTF does inboard clearance have to do with fitting OVER a brake caliper? Seriously? Go back and read what you wrote (and congrats on using the wheel offset apps online).

The ONLY things that matter for BBK clearance are spoke shape, space between the wheel pad and spoke faces (the pocket) and of course the outside diameter of the caliper itself fitting within the barrel.

My other car has Brembo's...I'm aware of making stuff happen.

You know what we call people discussing like that?
Idiots are everywhere... - InfinitiScene.com

here's your wheel clearance with 15mm spacers. That's my little finger mind you.. You'll need close to .7 inches clearance there.. Good luck achieving that with spoke design.
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again, I'm not sure how you can infer spoke clearance on those wheels from a mere picture (just because they look similar - the OZ's are two piece and therefore are very different construction...whether that's good or bad, it's different).

But thanks for lumping me in with people who don't have a clue. Based on your first comments explaining how my wheels sit 4mm inboard of stock, what did you expect? I could have 10.5" wheels that sit 4mm inboard of stock but give tons more clearance outboard - point is the 4mm comment was pointless.
 
All I have to say about this is if you don't like the answer just say thanks and move on. And next to that just ask for a more detailed answer. It's plain and simple. EG3 it's taking the time to answer, if he didn't give you the answer you wanted or expected that's no reason to blast him the way you did. By the way this forum is still full of great informers.

Thank you!
LOL
In other note. Hey EG3 when are we getting those Picts???
 
As I said, try it out... I'm not going to spend any time by trying to convince you.. What I know is 20x8.5 +38 and with your wheels, you'll need to use spacers.. Try it out and prove me wrong...
 
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