Remote starter for fx's

UglyOrangeThing said:
Mine does not lock if the key is in the vehicle. It knows when it's there. And the only thing I don't like about the system is the led remote. It's too Damn sensitive! It's always doing stuff on its own and there's no way to lock it. So i just use the phone app to remote start or my factory key fob. Works like a charm from anywhere. I also have another non led remote that came with it that I really don't use at all. But it's really nice looking.

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Mine doesn't lock when the key is in the car either just because of the same reason....this is default by Infiniti and the remote system should not be overriding this piece.

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UOT, you and most users have complaints with the led remote being too sensitive. It is, but my dealer gave it to me programmed so that you have to hit two keys on it to "unlock" it.

There is a way to lock it. It's in the installer menu or you can look it up online somewhere I remember finding it once. You do a certain sequence and then the remote locks. And then for me to unlock it I press the function key then unlock AND THEN I can remote start it, unlock, whatever, and then it relocks automatically I think in 20 seconds or 10 I can't remember now.

There is no way I'd be able to deal with that led remote without being locked. I'll hit it with my keys and stuff. You can unlock or remote start your car by accident! Locking your remote is a MUST and your dealer should had done that on day 1. You can do it yourself however if you find the instructions online. Those same instructions also program how long the car will be on before it automatically turns off....you can change that through your led remote....like 5 min, 15 min, 30 min, etc.

I never use the phone app. Why drag the phone out of your pocket and wait for it to come up, get signal, etc. I just reach in my pocket, unlock it, and remote start it.
 
jdTrader said:
Mine doesn't lock when the key is in the car either just because of the same reason....this is default by Infiniti and the remote system should not be overriding this piece.

Also...

UOT, you and most users have complaints with the led remote being too sensitive. It is, but my dealer gave it to me programmed so that you have to hit two keys on it to "unlock" it.

There is a way to lock it. It's in the installer menu or you can look it up online somewhere I remember finding it once. You do a certain sequence and then the remote locks. And then for me to unlock it I press the function key then unlock AND THEN I can remote start it, unlock, whatever, and then it relocks automatically I think in 20 seconds or 10 I can't remember now.

There is no way I'd be able to deal with that led remote without being locked. I'll hit it with my keys and stuff. You can unlock or remote start your car by accident! Locking your remote is a MUST and your dealer should had done that on day 1. You can do it yourself however if you find the instructions online. Those same instructions also program how long the car will be on before it automatically turns off....you can change that through your led remote....like 5 min, 15 min, 30 min, etc.

I never use the phone app. Why drag the phone out of your pocket and wait for it to come up, get signal, etc. I just reach in my pocket, unlock it, and remote start it.
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Thanks JD, I'm gonna look up how to do it. That's good info and like u said it's a must if your gonna use that led remote.

The phone app on the other hand I love. I control so many things using it. For instance, in the winter I had my car programmed to start and warm up 15 minutes before I got to my garage and the summer time also so the car would be nice and cool as I got there or warm depending on the temperature. Also useful was when I was having a battery issue. I had the car programmed to start when it went under a certain temperature for 10 minutes so it wouldn't kill my battery (which I now changed of course). And remote starting is great from the app when your car is out of range like mine is when I'm home and it's parked in the garage. Mine works flawlessly from everywhere I've tried so far even basements. It does run on the AT&T network for those who didn't know. The module that is...not the phone app. The phone app would be independent from your module and is carrier specific.
But yeah thanks for the locking tip that really is a must.

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Wow I didn't know u can do all that from the app. That is pretty sweet and clever the way you use it!
 
blueduck1105 said:
Haha yea mine locks automatically and not going to lie scares me sometimes. Mainly getting gas. Sometimes I just throw my keys in the cup holder and close my door. As I am pumping gas it locks. Luckily my app has saved me there. I want to get rid of the viper alarm because I don't like it much other than it sends me text alerts instantly when it goes off. Just seems like it has gone off too many times and I am not sure why.

I do love the viper though it is really nice. My small non led remote shattered though when I dropped my keys once. So that didn't make me feel great about the casing of that remote but all in all great product.
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I agree that the Viper remotes aren't the most sturdy alarm cases around lol. That's why I have my setup to work with my factory key fob. I still have my Viper remotes and they are fully functional as well but I never carry them since my factory key fobs work with the Viper by double tapping lock to remote start. So the only purpose of the Viper remote would be the range. If I want range I use my phone to remote start.

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superwario said:
I just called and the owner said that my system seems correct because since I am unlocking the vehicle, the system assumes that I have the key and allows me to drive off. He said he would call to confirm this with the company and see if their are any programming updates to amend this situation.

Just to be clear, my system is not Viper, it is AstroStart which is owned by Viper. The SmartStart module is a brand called Directed, which is the parent company of Viper. So maybe it really is how this system works? I'm very confused at this point. Maybe I can try and call the company myself to ask about it if the car shop doesn't amend it.

One thing that I want and that the owner said he will do for me is to have the car lock everytime the remote start is activated. At least that will give me some peace of mind, although having a key in the vehicle to make it drive would be better security since a crook can either break a window and drive off or steal the vehicle if I remote start the car and accidentally hit "unlock" in my pocket somehow.

Thanks for listening.
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Regardless of what brand you have it should still shut off after you step on the brake if you do not have your key fob on you. We all have to unlock the doors to get in, so unlocking the doors should not trick the car into thinking you have the key on you. If that is what is happening then the bypass is definitely the problem. Google "car alarm bypasses" and research what they do it will help you uderstand better how imporatant it is to have a good one that is installed and functions properly. I posted a link in this thread to a site that may help you with that. In a car with a key ignition you have to put the key in the ignition after a remote start and turn the key to the on position before you can step on the brake to disengage the remote start and drive off. On a push button to start vehicle, the key fob is supposed to have to be recognized by the car whether your Viper set up requires you to push the button or not and the bypass controls that. My Viper set up requires me to unlock the doors, push start button twice, then step on the brake to disengage the remote start. If I don't have the key fob on me when I step on the brake the car shuts off after a few seconds. I have a Viper 5104.

On another note wife has an AutoMate 5104 which is modelled after the Viper 5104 and like yours is made by Directed the company that makes Viper. As I stated above my wife has an 09 Murano and does not have to press the start button. She unlocks the doors, gets in and steps on the brake to disengage the remote start.. In her car also if you do not have the key fob on you the car shut off after a few seconds of having stepped on the brake.

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superwario said:
So I called technical support and they said that there's no way they can configure the car to where THERE HAS TO BE A KEY in the vehicle before it'll let me drive off with it. I guess that's what I get for letting the shop talk me into a system that isn't a Viper.
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They are telling you this because it is not the alarm that tells the car to make sure you have the key, it is the BYPASS that does that. I would go to another reputable shop and get a second opinion. If they are using g a good bypass that is programmed correctly you should not lose any of your cars functions, especially not that one. Try what I suggested and Google what a bypass does, you will see they are what allows the alarm system to communicate with the car smoothly and not all busses work smoothly with all cars. Most companies that make bypasses, make different model bypasses and some are car manufacturer specific for instance bypass A may work with Japanese cars and bypass B with American cars. So not only do you need a good bypass but you need one made to work with your car and it should be updated to the latest firmware. The bypass is what allows you to retain functions like your auto headlights and the car recognizing your key fob. Sometimes the installer has to do a little extra wiring to retain all the cars functionality. I also mentioned in a previous post that the installer had minor issues getting the bypass to work with the auto headlight feature and function properly on my wifes car. He actually had to call Directed and spend a little time on the phone with their tech support. He was able to resolve it quickly though and it all runs smoothly now. Like JD said earlier a good installer is key.

Check this out: (AGAIN I'M NOT PROMOTING OR RECOMMENDING A FORTIN BYPASS) I just hope that reading a little about the bypass module gives you a better understanding of how it works.

http://ifar.ca/en/

Click on the link to their Evo-Series bypasses and just read a little about what a bypass module does and keep in mind all of our aftermarket alarms with a remote start need one that is functioning properly.
 
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That's tight. I didn't know there was even the option to program the Infiniti key to remote start. I may look into that long with getting rid of the viper alarm. It is just annoying. Unless someone in Chicago is willing to tackle the wiring to disarm it.

JOnas, you said yours doesn't lock when in the car? Mine doesn't lock if the car is already running. But if it was running and then I turn off the engine and leave my key in the cup holder and close the door after like 15 seconds it locks.

I may need to go to the place I got it installed. I imagine they would reprogram and stuff for free? But I guess you never know
 
blueduck1105 said:
That's tight. I didn't know there was even the option to program the Infiniti key to remote start. I may look into that long with getting rid of the viper alarm. It is just annoying. Unless someone in Chicago is willing to tackle the wiring to disarm it.

JOnas, you said yours doesn't lock when in the car? Mine doesn't lock if the car is already running. But if it was running and then I turn off the engine and leave my key in the cup holder and close the door after like 15 seconds it locks.

I may need to go to the place I got it installed. I imagine they would reprogram and stuff for free? But I guess you never know
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Yeah thanks, I love having it programmed to the factory key fob. I only have to carry one key fob and it and the door handle buttons are still fully functional. The factory key fob has surprisingly decent range also but the phone eliminates range issues anyway. I'm sorry to hear that your unhappy with the Viper, it really is a great system if you can find someone who is willing and with the knowledge to wire the system to cater to your likes and dislikse. Everything you described can be remedied by the installer. Don't get discouraged on the Viper bro, I had a similar experience with allowing Best Buy to attempt to install the Viper on one of my 1st gen FX's. I almost gave up on it but once I found an installer who had experience with cars that have an interface as advanced as our FX. I love it now.

Whatever you decide good luck.
 
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Just some additional advice. I would also make sure to know the recommended installer. The installer is more important than the shop.

The shop I go to is known to be good because one of the guys is the brains, certified, etc. however that shop also has many installers including high school kids. If they run into issues they always refer to him. Thats why the shop always looks great. I've known the guy for awhile and I would go to him if he was out of that shop or running a business out of a cardboard box alley. So I made it a point that only he does the install work on my car and he was also the one that made my fiberglass box and few other things. These type of guys not only are great installers but also know how to do it so it lasts the lifetime of the car, don't cut corners, etc.

Find the installer, then find out where that installer works

Heck I've gotten my tint done from a guy in a garage because his tint is recommended over tint shops.
 
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