OT Hyundai Genesis

EG3 said:
Welcome to :iS:.. Nice first post. Proves that you've been following things.. :smile:
If the comment above is correct, they're still doing the same mistakes.. People don't get Hyundais because they are Hyundais.. Whether they do 10 year warranty or 20 year or lifetime or they do the best quality per price, they are STILL Hyundais... They need to get rid of that brand name for high quality products, stop stealing design clues from others and try competing against Infiniti, Acura and Lexus.. Not that I like Hyundai, but that's how they should compete for high end.. People that can afford these cars can also afford an Acura or Infiniti and they won't choose a Hyundai over these.. See how far Nissan differentiates Infiniti from Nissan brand and you'd get the idea..
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My 2 cents regarding this car:

1) This new coupe is very impressive considering Hyundai's humble beginnings.

2) It's still a Hyundai. Currently it's not going to overtake any Infiniti, Acura, or Lexus because Americans are too brand conscious. When it comes down to it we're a bunch of pretentious snobs. Every Japanese company had to spin off a luxury brand counterpart to make their cars viable in the luxury market.

3) They say imitation is the best form of flattery. Hyundai designers must have good things to say about many other car manufacturers out there.

4) It's biggest marketing downfall IMO for the coupe that's going to prevent Hyundai from stepping up in the automotive pecking order is the model options for the coupe. When you have such a huge range in power, option, and price, how's the $28k V6 guy going to feel next to the HS kid who bought the 4 banger version but the car can be made to look the same? Add in the depreciation value of a Hyundai and you're creating a ricer raceboi's wet dream. We saw it with the 350Z when the price point of the 03-04 models dropped and became available to HS kids looking for a car between $15-19k. The Z and G image got killed almost overnight. Many Z/G owners got out of their cars just because of the shift in ownership demographics. Pricing a car high enough creates excusivtivity within itself.

5) The V8 sedan is going to go the way of the VW Phaeton. Great car but not good enough because of the leaning H badge. Most people with $35-$40 to spend will not select the Genesis because it's a Hyundai just like the $70k consumer will not pass up a MB or BMW for a VW.

6) Sorry Hyundai, you've made leaps and strides over the years but you've still got a long way to go. The typical American consumer is not ready at this juncture in time to embrace you as an equal amongst the Japanese big 3.
 
trainerKEN said:
I read somewhere that the Genesis (sedan) sales is actually doing pretty good... right on par where they were expecting :dontknow:
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Honestly ... what were they expecting numbers wise?

When I was 19 I wanted to score with at least 1 hot chick every weekend.... but then reality set in and I was happy with just one per semester if even .... point is .. you set the bar low enough anything can look pretty good. It's a matter of perspectives.
 
Rubare said:
Don't judge a book by its cover. The car looks great can't denied that. Let's see how it does performance wise.
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I agree.

And I hear that the Coupe has been testing well. The 2.0T is easily modified with a simple flash and bolt ons. And there are some big numbers out East already running around with bigger turbos and s/c. Stock it sprints to 60 in 6s. The 306hp 3.8 V6 was tested recently and from what feedback I have heard, performs "extremely close" to the G37. They timed the stock sprint at 5.5s. And feedback on the steering and handling have been pretty positive. The RWD chassis makes a big difference.

Again this is all 3rd party info so I will reserve judgement until I see one in the flesh.



themerchant said:
If I ever get one of these, the first thing it to remove the "coupe" sign on the NAV screen. Why is it there, just to remind me its a coupe? lol
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Yeah that's just silly. Now that I've seen the interior more closely, the quality still appears to be average at best. Audi aren't going to be sweating it for sure.

Z33_2_FX35 said:
+1


My 2 cents regarding this car:

1) This new coupe is very impressive considering Hyundai's humble beginnings.

2) It's still a Hyundai. Currently it's not going to overtake any Infiniti, Acura, or Lexus because Americans are too brand conscious. When it comes down to it we're a bunch of pretentious snobs. Every Japanese company had to spin off a luxury brand counterpart to make their cars viable in the luxury market.

3) They say imitation is the best form of flattery. Hyundai designers must have good things to say about many other car manufacturers out there.

4) It's biggest marketing downfall IMO for the coupe that's going to prevent Hyundai from stepping up in the automotive pecking order is the model options for the coupe. When you have such a huge range in power, option, and price, how's the $28k V6 guy going to feel next to the HS kid who bought the 4 banger version but the car can be made to look the same? Add in the depreciation value of a Hyundai and you're creating a ricer raceboi's wet dream. We saw it with the 350Z when the price point of the 03-04 models dropped and became available to HS kids looking for a car between $15-19k. The Z and G image got killed almost overnight. Many Z/G owners got out of their cars just because of the shift in ownership demographics. Pricing a car high enough creates excusivtivity within itself.

5) The V8 sedan is going to go the way of the VW Phaeton. Great car but not good enough because of the leaning H badge. Most people with $35-$40 to spend will not select the Genesis because it's a Hyundai just like the $70k consumer will not pass up a MB or BMW for a VW.

6) Sorry Hyundai, you've made leaps and strides over the years but you've still got a long way to go. The typical American consumer is not ready at this juncture in time to embrace you as an equal amongst the Japanese big 3.
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All excellent points.

trainerKEN said:
I read somewhere that the Genesis (sedan) sales is actually doing pretty good... right on par where they were expecting :dontknow:
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Same here so far. I've seen a few rolling around. Hyundai sales in general have rocketed over the past couple of years. They are doing a great job no doubt. It was only a few years ago that they were seen as a joke company. Now they are everywhere.
 
Z33_2_FX35 said:
Honestly ... what were they expecting numbers wise?

When I was 19 I wanted to score with at least 1 hot chick every weekend.... but then reality set in and I was happy with just one per semester if even .... point is .. you set the bar low enough anything can look pretty good. It's a matter of perspectives.
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nice analogy :wink:

I dunno mang... it was something I read in autoblog that said they had a projected number to sell and they met that number... unlike MANY car companies RIGHT NOW with cars sitting at ports around the country with nowhere to go...

so, to answer your question? whatever number they picked, they've met... how many other car companies can say that right now? ... seriously?
 
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eh, it's only a boxster (base - I think)

Horsepower245 @ 6500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft)201 @ 4600 RPM
 
Should Porsche a ummm sport car company be winning anyways.. I know the base model it's way lighter than the genesis sedan..


Waiit!!! It's just a hyundai!!!! I mean that's what everyone keep saying.. I think saying it's just a Porsche won't get the base model boxter out of this one..!! LOL
 
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Rubare said:
Should Porsche a ummm sport car company be winning anyways.. I know the base model it's way lighter than the genesis sedan..


Waiit!!! It's just a hyundai!!!! I mean that's what everyone keep saying.. I think saying it's just a Porsche won't get the base model boxter out of this one..!! LOL
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WAIT A MINUTE....that video didn't justify anything...they diddnt even show the whole race...how do we know we didn't get fooled by a promo vid??:confused:
 
Boxsters are weak - i used to smoke em when I had my Syclone.
Boxsters are like the bottom of the Porsche family. Like the C class or 3 Series hahaha.
 
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