how do you like a sound of 850whp fx35

By the way, it's interesting that there were several comments about this won't work or u will have trouble with this, or you'll lose power cause of the awd, because he actually knows all that even though it may not appear so, so it's not like you are talking to an amateur here. He's not on the site much and won't be much just because he works 7 days a week and almost all day so he just doesn't have the time for forums. QUOTE]

I have to be honest and was rather sceptic at first when reading all this as well. Working on my own projekt right now i know now how much time will go into these projekts. On the other hand if a company would work on it whole days and have everything in stock it can be done i gues.
Thing is i also thought what is he talking about, but he maybe is not that into detail as some of the other members here. What i do think is that the shop tried to convince and sell him this deal a bit too much by using such numbers and finishing dates.
I have a company myself as some of you know in the wheel bussines and found out in 17 years of bussines that you have to be very carefull and clear what you promise and tell people.
Would have been a big pitty if alena would get in all sort of discussions and arguments with them if he really demands them to deliver what they promissed. In stead the could have brought it a little bit more down to earth and say we are gonna push it to the max what can be done......in stead of talking about 850 WHP and a 10 second car.
If they are so certain of this being possible why not offer a refund when this can't be done in the end.......you think they would still have such big words.....??

Again.....alena all the best to you bro, for being able to finance this and doing it even but what i want to say and some other with me i gues is try not to expect these big numbers and take what ever they can give you.......you'll love it anyways but won't be that disapointed :tup:
 
This is really exciting to see an AWD being built out. My thoughts were previously to buy a 2003 AWD FX35 for $10k and throw $20k into it for daily driver, but I love my VK45DE too much.

This looks like the right idea, except with a much bigger bank account!
 
I'm pretty sure he doesn't want just a fast FX, but to be the fastest FX and surprise corvettes when a suv beats them on a drag. So my guess is that's why the numbers matter to him much. If it would turn out to just be 700 hp, I'm sure he'd be pissed as hell because of the hard earned money spent and what the shop said they would get done based on all that experience.

If it was me, I wouldn't want to pay a lot of $$$ to a shop that basically said I can't promise you anything but we'll try to push it to the max...I'd be like ok bye. Well, that's just me.

If there are some specific reasons why this looks very far fetched, it would be worthwhile to ask the shop directly from the facebook page. If you have your reasons, list them, and one of us can ask the shop directly and hopefully get an answer! :smile (2):
 
If Viet's does 650 on 91 pump gas, I wonder what it would do tuned to race gas!

If I win the lottery I'd buy his car and start from there -- except 650 is way too fast for me already so I wouldn't touch a thing. Sounds like you could break loose the tires in every gear.
 
So I posted on http://www.facebook.com/ZFever

"Can you tell us more about the SUV 800+hp build?"

Response within the hour was:
"Sure, it is a full 4.3L stroked VQ35DE with JWT 272 Cams, Ferrea valves, Supertech springs, twin GT3076R Garrett turbos, Greddy turbo kit fabricated to fit, PE 800cc injectors, Cosworth fuel rails, custom dual fuel pump system with return, and a Level 10 fully built trans. and AWD to boot"

So go ahead and post here questions with any uncertainties why 800 might be difficult or concerns you have that you think the shop might not be considering...

Then I can put the list together and ask the shop as opposed to several people just hitting them with questions.
 
Found this other stroked VQ. On race fuel, seems possible. The AWD is keeping my head scratching, not that I'm doubting it. The parasitic loss might be quite high.

Even if it's programmed to run at RWD and send 0 power to the front wheels, will there still be any parasitic loss?

I also wonder how the AWD/traction control will respond. Also, suspension components -- able to handle all that sheer torque?

547whp Dyno Dynamics/ 587 Dyno Jet @ 12 PSI

Engine Bay

GReddy Twin Turbo (TD06 Exhaust - 60 Trim w/ Ceramic Garrett Ball Bearing cartridge)
Polished Front Mount Intercooler
HKS 1000cc Injectors
HKS F-Con Pro v3.2 Engine Management System (with Pressure & Temp sensor harnesses)
HKS Pressure, Air Temp sensors & Air/Fuel Knock Amp sensor
HKS Navigator Pro monitor
HKS Blow-Off Valve (SSQV) x 2
HKS Electronic Boost Controller (EVC w/Monitor)
HKS DLI Twin Power Ignition Amplifier
CJM Stage 1 Fuel system (Aluminum rails w/lines) & Walboro 255 (in-tank) Fuel Pump
AAM Ultra Spec Big Pump Upgrade (Bosch external pump) w/ Surge tank
AAM Spec Oil Pan Spacer w/ -AN Stainless Return lines
AAM Spec Throttle Body Spacer
AAM Ultra Spec True Dual 3" Exhaust w/ titanium tip mufflers, 3"Down Pipes & Open Dumps
Forged Performance Solid Motor Mounts
Forged Performance F-Con Tuning & setup of boost controller @12 psi
Innovate LC-1 WBO2 52mm Wideband O2 Sensor + harness
GReddy 3 kg/cm2 Pressure Sensor + harness
NISMO Competition Oil Pump
Fluidyne Oil Cooler (DB-30816-STD) 28x3 and 5x3.5 w/ Stainless hoses & connectors
Koyo 53 mm Radiator
Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator, w/ 2 (-6 AN) inlet ports
ARC Oil Catch Can
Jet-Hot coating: Exhaust manifolds & Turbine Housing

Internal Engine Components

Arias/GTM Extreme Duty Pistons (90 mm Stroke x 100 mm Bore)
GTM 4340 Billet Chromoly Steel Crank
GTM 4340 Billet Chromoly Steel Connecting Rods w/ ARP Rod bolts (90 mm Stroke)
GTM Race Bearings
Darton MID Sleeves
ARP 2000 12mm Head Studs (w/Timeserts)
Cometic Head Gasket
GT Motorsports Stage 4 Heads (Ported, Polished, Resurfaced & 5 Angle radius valve grind)
Ferrea +1.5mm stainless steel valves
Ferrea dual titanium springs
Ferrea titanium retainers, locators, keepers,
GT Motorsports Turbo Spec Camshaft (Intake 256, Exhaust 264, Lift 0.423”, Overlap 18)
Nissan Pathfinder cooling modification
NISMO 154* degree Thermostat

Drivetrain

DriveShaftShop Level 5 Axles
ATS carbon 1.5 way, Limited Slip Differential (clutch type)
ATS Triple Carbon Plate Clutch 1350-kg. (Soft-Type) w/ Lightweight Carbon Flywheel
NISMO Differential Cooling Case
 
Found this other stroked VQ. On race fuel, seems possible. The AWD is keeping my head scratching, not that I'm doubting it. The parasitic loss might be quite high.

Even if it's programmed to run at RWD and send 0 power to the front wheels, will there still be any parasitic loss?

I also wonder how the AWD/traction control will respond. Also, suspension components -- able to handle all that sheer torque?

547whp Dyno Dynamics/ 587 Dyno Jet @ 12 PSI

Engine Bay

GReddy Twin Turbo (TD06 Exhaust - 60 Trim w/ Ceramic Garrett Ball Bearing cartridge)
Polished Front Mount Intercooler
HKS 1000cc Injectors
HKS F-Con Pro v3.2 Engine Management System (with Pressure & Temp sensor harnesses)
HKS Pressure, Air Temp sensors & Air/Fuel Knock Amp sensor
HKS Navigator Pro monitor
HKS Blow-Off Valve (SSQV) x 2
HKS Electronic Boost Controller (EVC w/Monitor)
HKS DLI Twin Power Ignition Amplifier
CJM Stage 1 Fuel system (Aluminum rails w/lines) & Walboro 255 (in-tank) Fuel Pump
AAM Ultra Spec Big Pump Upgrade (Bosch external pump) w/ Surge tank
AAM Spec Oil Pan Spacer w/ -AN Stainless Return lines
AAM Spec Throttle Body Spacer
AAM Ultra Spec True Dual 3" Exhaust w/ titanium tip mufflers, 3"Down Pipes & Open Dumps
Forged Performance Solid Motor Mounts
Forged Performance F-Con Tuning & setup of boost controller @12 psi
Innovate LC-1 WBO2 52mm Wideband O2 Sensor + harness
GReddy 3 kg/cm2 Pressure Sensor + harness
NISMO Competition Oil Pump
Fluidyne Oil Cooler (DB-30816-STD) 28x3 and 5x3.5 w/ Stainless hoses & connectors
Koyo 53 mm Radiator
Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator, w/ 2 (-6 AN) inlet ports
ARC Oil Catch Can
Jet-Hot coating: Exhaust manifolds & Turbine Housing

Internal Engine Components

Arias/GTM Extreme Duty Pistons (90 mm Stroke x 100 mm Bore)
GTM 4340 Billet Chromoly Steel Crank
GTM 4340 Billet Chromoly Steel Connecting Rods w/ ARP Rod bolts (90 mm Stroke)
GTM Race Bearings
Darton MID Sleeves
ARP 2000 12mm Head Studs (w/Timeserts)
Cometic Head Gasket
GT Motorsports Stage 4 Heads (Ported, Polished, Resurfaced & 5 Angle radius valve grind)
Ferrea +1.5mm stainless steel valves
Ferrea dual titanium springs
Ferrea titanium retainers, locators, keepers,
GT Motorsports Turbo Spec Camshaft (Intake 256, Exhaust 264, Lift 0.423”, Overlap 18)
Nissan Pathfinder cooling modification
NISMO 154* degree Thermostat

Drivetrain

DriveShaftShop Level 5 Axles
ATS carbon 1.5 way, Limited Slip Differential (clutch type)
ATS Triple Carbon Plate Clutch 1350-kg. (Soft-Type) w/ Lightweight Carbon Flywheel
NISMO Differential Cooling Case

what is the URL link to this, so we can forward them the link?
 
Not sure I have seen anything about the Engine management for this build? Haltech, ProEFI or FCon Pro?

Again I notice 800cc injectors seem small - the above build is at 1000cc for 550whp on gas and has a manual transmission.

Maybe consider a damper crank pulley and lightweight acessory pullies?

Engine mount selection could be tough - I could not stand poly mounts. Had to switch back to OEM. The solid mounts took all the luxury feel away from the car and made it loud and full of vibration.

Been recent discussions of carbon fiber driveshafts as well - good for torsional dampening and absorbtion of drivetrain shock, not to mention you save 50+lbs of rotating mass. I would think this is a must have for a high horsepower heavy drivetrain.

Related (for reduction of unsprung mass) are lightweight wheels - the OEM stockers tip the scales at 38 lbs each. Something in the 20-25 lb range would improve response on the strip for sure.
 
Yeah I thought the 800cc was small.

Getting 800 HP is more than possible, never questioned that. I'm much more skeptical of running 10's.
 
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Related (for reduction of unsprung mass) are lightweight wheels - the OEM stockers tip the scales at 38 lbs each. Something in the 20-25 lb range would improve response on the strip for sure.

Not to nitpick but the OEM 20's are 31.4lbs without the tires. The mythical 40lb stocker was a measuring error...
 
my biggest question is, aside from drive shafts & half shafts & axles/cv joints which are probably going to snap, how the heck is the nissan automatic going to handle anywhere near this kind of power??? I mean aside from the awd part of it, the tranny is basically the same as it's rwd counterpart... what's the highest hp anyone's ever run reliably through any nissan automatic, even rwd? I didn't think it could live long at even close to 600hp, let alone 800+??... throwing enough money at it, then making the power is relatively easy in comparison, but the rest of the car surviving under this much power would be my question
 
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my biggest question is, aside from drive shafts & half shafts & axles/cv joints which are probably going to snap, how the heck is the nissan automatic going to handle anywhere near this kind of power??? I mean aside from the awd part of it, the tranny is basically the same as it's rwd counterpart... what's the highest hp anyone's ever run reliably through any nissan automatic, even rwd? I didn't think it could live long at even close to 600hp, let alone 800+??... throwing enough money at it, then making the power is relatively easy in comparison, but the rest of the car surviving under this much power would be my question

He did mention the whole transmission is being rebuilt....I believe in a shop in California to be able to handle about 1,000 hp. He is not using a stock nissan awd trans.
 
Sam at GTM is building a trans right now for high HP. It is mine. not sure what the final rating will be though. but from his e-mail he was able to beef up every gear but it was hard to do as there is verry litytle room in the trans to work with
 
I do of course realize he's having the tranny built, but even so, I mean I wish we had the ability to really build to this level but never thought it was possible no matter who built it tbh... what examples are there of any nissan autos at anywhere near this power level?

shumby, I think 7 speeds going to be even worse because everything inside has to be that much smaller to fit 7 gears where there were only 5 before...

don't get me wrong, hell I wish what's being talked about here really was true, believe me, I'd much rather stay automatic than having to switch to a manual tranny, but up until now I'm thinking that even 700hp with auto isn't possible to do & still be reliable far as everything I've known about this up until now...
 
yeah, I know yours is 7 speed, which is why I say I think that one would be even more difficult... man it would be awesome for anyone to come up with a nissan automatic that can handle big power...
 
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