G37 / FX50 Akebono Brake Retrofit

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Excuse me for asking a newbie question but i didnt find my answer in the previous pages.

I have a set of g37s calipers off a wrecked g37s. I pulled the complete assembly including brake lines. My question is: do i need to get the stoptech lines? or will the G37S stock lines bolt up to my 2003 FX?


Thanks in advance
 
the story with the lines is this, the akebono's are made to accept a flared hard line inlet, from the factory there is a hard line that screws into the caliper, it then extends a bit further up the spindle where it changes over to a flex line & then connects to the chassis hard lines... well the 03-08 fx is originally set up different, instead of a hard line to the caliper it runs the flex line directly to the caliper from the chassis, & it uses a banjo bolt fitting instead of a flared fitting... it just so happens that the thread size & pitch is the same & the akebono's also do still have a square pad at the line fitting, meaning it too will work well with a banjo fitting, just like the OE fx used, but, because it was originally designed for a flared line it does not have quite the same depth at the threaded hole...

this is why the bolt needs to be slightly shortened, or at least have the tip drilled, to give it the same contour as the inner flared fitting... when using a banjo bolt the seal is not created at the flared part of the fitting, it is instead created with the 2 copper washers that seal on the flat boss at the threaded inlet... this is also exactly why the bolts need to be drilled a bit, to insure that the bolt tightens on the sealing washers before it bottoms in the orifice, allowing the washers to do the job of sealing without having any interference from the bolt bottoming

now a later model line, one correct for the akebono's theoretically will work, BUT realize that this new line is shaped & designed for the suspension of the donor car, & it is not really the same... it will be up to you to mount & plumb it in a way that it will be safe & durable & not have any interfering anywhere... it will be much harder to use that line safely than it would be to use a line that is specifically designed for our suspension, the correct line will be the right shape, length & have the correct mounting points, I'd strongly advise using the original line & just modifying the banjo bolt, as this will result in a safe reliable & as factory intended install... brake lines are nothing to play with or take lightly, if you match up your new line & are confident in it's mounting & routing then technically it should work fine, BUT I will never recommend it to anyone because there is just too much room for error... I looked at the factory lines for the akebono's & decided early on that it was NOT worth the work & risk to try & make it work... our suspension is very different from the suspension that the newer lines are designed for & it just will not mount & route correctly without some work, it's MUCH safer & easier & foolproof to just retrofit the banjo fitting & use the lines that are designed specifically for our suspension... hope this helps :)
 
I recalled 10mm does not clear for stock 20's (gen1's), 15mm is best of choice and has a little breathing room.

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I recalled 10mm does not clear for stock 20's (gen1's), 15mm is best of choice and has a little breathing room.

I can confirm what soonster's words that you will need 15mm spacer at the front to clear the front Akebono Caliper 20" stock rims. No spacer is required for the rear. 15mm spacer is really tight fit, there is only about 1/8" of gap left between the stock 20" rims and the Akebono caliper.

I just put my stock 20" back with 15mm spacers for my winter setup.
 
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I can confirm what soonster's words that you will need 15mm spacer at the front to clear the front Akebono Caliper 20" stock rims. No spacer is required for the rear. 15mm spacer is really tight fit, there is only about 1/8" of gap left between the stock 20" rims and the Akebono caliper.

I just put my stock 20" back with 15mm spacers for my winter setup.

thanks for the input. What brand of spacer did you use? I was going to purchase H&Rs. I noticed that our stock 20" has the dimple on the back of wheel to accept the spacers with the studs in them.
 
I have ichiba's version1 (extended studs). H&R's should be nice, cost a bit more.

About the "dimple on the back of wheel", someone had tried using 15mm bolt-on (version 2) and will required some bolt shavings since there's not enough clearence.
>> If you go 20mm+, then it will clear the oem studs.

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yes, & once you shave 5mm off the stock studs there NOT safe to reuse them again without the spacers ever, so unless your planning on always running spacers then either get the 20mm spacers of that design or do the 15mm version that requires replacing the original studs with longer studs, which is the better option really anyway...
 
spacers

where are the H&R and ichiba spacers made? (ones with studs attached)

Is the price difference in the H&R worth it?

Just bought my rotors and brakes lines, for my front g37s conversion. Only thing left are the spacers. Might go with the 20mm and change the studs instead.
 
ichiba (japanese ) ~ $110
h&r (german) ~120

check ebay and google around for the best deals.
 
I need to just change my brakes to the FX50 akebono set for my 2008 FX35 instead of spending double the $$$ for other BBK.
 
Ok future planning, If I run 20mm in the front and 25mm in the back, will I have to shave down the factory studs or will they b ok?
 
Ok future planning, If I run 20mm in the front and 25mm in the back, will I have to shave down the factory studs or will they b ok?

1) Bolt-on type without longer studs -- 20 mm yes, 25mm no, this is with OEM wheels.

2) Replacing studs with longer studs -- obviously not as the studs are perfect length then.
 
I recalled 10mm does not clear for stock 20's (gen1's), 15mm is best of choice and has a little breathing room.

FX45 '08, Stock wheels (restyling) with 12mm spacers, longer studs.
Has been running on them for 5 months.
All ok.
I suppose 12mm is minimal possible.
 
Why do some fx50 BBK have infiniti on the caliper and some have Akebono? I'm going to order this kit and I would prefer Akebono in the caliper. Im guessing its custom?? How is it done?
Thanks!
 
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