damn pat,... when I was a kid cars had bumper jacks, they fit into a slot in the chrome metal bumper & jacked the whole car up from there... well one day I tried to change rear leaf springs on an old rotted out ford falcon I had, had the car up in the air hanging for hours on just the bumper jack with me under the car tugging & beating away at hopelessly rusted spring shackles. I finally gave up as it got dark out & as I sit there back out from under the car thinking about putting the wheel back on, the car just fell to the ground... rotted bumper bracket couldn't hold the car anymore & she just ripped apart... you learn from your mistakes, hopefully you don't die from them though... be safe man.