What kind of gasoline do you use?

What Gas do you put in your FX?

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We need FX'ers trying to fix the BP problem. You guys be doing good research. I was in the drilling and fracturing for natural gas the past 3 years and I couldn't get that much info from the engineers and the business men in the field. LOL.
 
The majority of statistics show that FX owners carry a higher overall intelligence level. Afterall, 4 out of every 5 drivers in North America make up 80% of the population. And continent wide, FX owners are by far less than 1%. So considering the mean individual intelligence level (as well as factoring in realistic population significance), it's obviously a proven fact that FX owners are among the smartest and wittiest on the planet. Statistics like this don't lie. They just can't. I think science calls it the Bionic Cheetah Therom.
 
Pork and Beans said:
The majority of statistics show that FX owners carry a higher overall intelligence level. Afterall, 4 out of every 5 drivers in North America make up 80% of the population. And continent wide, FX owners are by far less than 1%. So considering the mean individual intelligence level (as well as factoring in realistic population significance), it's obviously a proven fact that FX owners are among the smartest and wittiest on the planet. Statistics like this don't lie. They just can't. I think science calls it the Bionic Cheetah Therom.
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Ahhh yes, the BCT. For a minute there I was confused...
 
tchuck said:
The fuel is metered at the pump, and the customer is charged by the "gallon". Fuel expanding in the vehicle's tank won't affect the price you pay per gallon.

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I was refering to the expansion in the fuel stations tanks as temp rises and that is in a slightly more condensed form when cooler.
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I agree with MTN. Better to buy when cold, dense, and concentrated. As the temp rises through the day, your fuel will "grow" just a tad. Its similar to why perfomance will be better with cooler (or, not hot) fuel.
I havn't seen it in years, but in the olden days, a mod would be using a contraption to cool fuel lines just upstream on the intake. Basically an intercooler.
 
bleedingsujit said:
Even those off brand gas has the least amount of additives or cleaners required by state law. brand names tend to research and add different cleaning agents that exceeds the requirements. Personally I do not approve the current trend of adding up to 10% ethanol in gasoline. I use Shell V Power, always have, and sometimes I buy Exxon.
Here's a few things people aren't fully aware of:

when unloading gasoline, if the underground tank for regular gas becomes full and there's gas left in the truck, those delivery guys will just mix it with super unleaded. Also
a person with multiple stores (e.g. a Valero and a shell stations) may order gasoline from the refinery that supplies to Valero but have them deliver the gas to his Shell station.
Now i don't know how much the octane ratings go out of whack in these cases but at least it's a given that even the name brand fuel stations screw around.
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where did you get that info? because they are not true at all


Pork and Beans said:
I've always played the gasoline game.
I usually use 76 or Mobil. Chevron and Shell are great also. I never use Arco or Valero, (unless in a rental . . . or stolen.)

Something else to keep in mind:

1) Independent gas stations will buy surplus from suppliers of their choice. For example, Mobil (as an example only) will first provide for their franchises. Any surplus, and there generally is one, will go to independents. Because independents are basically on 'stand-by', they may or may not get their first choice delivery. But when they do, they buy the same name brand gas from the same truck as name brand franchises. At the end of the day, "Independent Joe's" may receive Mobile, or their other choice, 76. In my experience, independents usually buy from 2 suppliers, sometimes 3. If you ask, they'll tell you who. Whether they BS you or not is out of my control. Independents are not allowed to advertise the name brand to be fair to franchises. I will gladly purchase from independents that I trust supply quality gas, and occasionally do from two places local to me. Another interesting fact is that the cost of the surplus petrol will fluctuate depending on the amount of surplus. So, with a big surplus, independents pay less, charge less, and therefore offer a better deal. But, when a refinery's surplus is low or nil, cost to independents rises and with supply and demand, the Independent-Joes's price will be higher than the name brand across the street. Whether you use Indepentent-Joe's gas or not, use this as a market indicator. If you see this trend in your geographic region, the price at name brand gas stations will rise in the next 1-6 days.

2) Since I only use 91 octane in my FX, I only buy from highly trafficed gas stations. A less popular station, or maybe even one in certain economic regions, will sell a lesser quantity of premium fuel. With less turnover, you increase your chance of buying stale fuel. Gas does go bad over time and I don't want old gas. This is obviously more of a critical point during major price hikes or rural stations off the beaten path.

Okay, way too much nerdy knowledge here. Sorry to bore you. Fuel and cars are just my thing though. I gonna go have a beer.
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everything you said is right about gas business and quality of gas depending on turnover rate.

also to add on, even with high traffic gas staions, sales of premium gas only accounts about 3~5% of total gasoline sales and have much lower turnover rate compared to regular unleaded gas. so think about going to a staion with low turnover rate..
 
minkl81 said:
where did you get that info? because they are not true at
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hey dude, i am not saying these things happen,

I KNOW THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN
When I was doing Inventory management for my friend's uncle who owned 7 gas stations (from Ft. Worth to Mesquite, TX), his gasoline delivery would be re-routed a lot of times from one store to the other. I vividly remember the day when I told the truck driver to mix the leftover gas with super. Later he told me he had poured at least 1700 gallons of unleaded regular into the super unleaded storage tank.
Not to offend anyone or be biased but a lot of Indians who own multiple store with different brands don't give a shit about octane ratings, their top priority is how to make more money off of every gallon of gas they sell since profit is at an all time low and it hurts them even more when customers pay with credit cards for gas.
I am not an Indian, but I have worked with them most of my life, be that in Dallas or Austin or Houston, i know that this practice is quietly performed everywhere.
 
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Thats a little upsetting to hear. Kind of pisses me off too.

So how are we as consumers supposed to know exactly what we are pumping into our cars.
 
KNFX said:
Thats a little upsetting to hear. Kind of pisses me off too.

So how are we as consumers supposed to know exactly what we are pumping into our cars.
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this is exactly the point i am trying to make, consumers don't know a lot of things that companies do, and scam is not just limited to oil companies. we all know that.
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bleedingsujit said:
hey dude, i am not saying these things happen,

I KNOW THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN
When I was doing Inventory management for my friend's uncle who owned 7 gas stations (from Ft. Worth to Mesquite, TX), his gasoline delivery would be re-routed a lot of times from one store to the other. I vividly remember the day when I told the truck driver to mix the leftover gas with super. Later he told me he had poured at least 1700 gallons of unleaded regular into the super unleaded storage tank.
Not to offend anyone or be biased but a lot of Indians who own multiple store with different brands don't give a shit about octane ratings, their top priority is how to make more money off of every gallon of gas they sell since profit is at an all time low and it hurts them even more when customers pay with credit cards for gas.
I am not an Indian, but I have worked with them most of my life, be that in Dallas or Austin or Houston, i know that this practice is quietly performed everywhere.
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well your friend's uncle was or is still doing very illegal thing in the gas business. was the staion franchise or non-brand privately owned?

also i'm not sure how the heck driver followed your order to pour the remaining of regular gas into premium tank. if the driver followed the proper procedures, anything that is left over should have been returned to the distribution center and reported on the invoice as "retained."

and in oregon state, deq comes out to the staion twice a year and inspects the pump rate and octane level and tests out every single pumps. if the tests are passed, state issued stickers are stuck on the pumps. and if the tests are failed, pumps can't be used until problem is resolved and reported to the state.

maybe you should've reported the happening to the state deq or the corporate if it was branded station rather than ordering the driver to fill the remaining into the premium tank. just not ethically right thing to do... i'm saying this because i've been in this gas business for 10 years, and because of owners like your friend's uncle, rest of honest stations are getting blamed for misconduct..


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and for people who are into octane levels...
if you guys look carefully at the pump buttons (regular, midgrade, premium), it says "minimum requirement" in small letter with octane level in big number. so that means whatever octane level its posted on the buttons are minimum requirement to meet the state requirement for that level of gas. and when state comes out for a inspection and conducts octane level tests, usually octane level on all grade of gasolines are higher by about 2~3 points.
 
It was back in 06 that that happened, I don't work there anymore. the guy owned 2 Shell, 3 Diamond Shamrock (Valero), a Texaco and the other one is Conoco, i am not sure. the driver himself suggested that we put the remaining gas in super unleaded tank so i told him to do it.
you're right the stickers say the gasoline meets the minimum requirement of that particular state when in truth brand name fuel stations exceed such requirements.
here in TX, the Department of Agriculture inspects the pump for leaks, flow of fuel (no more that 2 gallons in 12 seconds) and the calibration (meter charging you 2,3 cents even before you pump). when everything checks out, stickers are placed at their respective places. that's it.
i never had to pay for fuel when i was employed by him so I never bothered with what he was doing.
 
To the OP, if you want to see the difference 2 qualities of gas are, use a snow blower, leaf blower, lawn mower, or any 2cycle/4cycle gas engine and use both gases in it, the difference is night and day, cheap gas will make any power tool vibrate through you, you will feel it on your insides, makes the job painful and you need recovery time, quality gas makes the power tool run super smooth, knowing the difference it makes in small engines I only use quality, name brand, good repeat traffic stations:wink:
 
Wow. Some of yall know your gasoline facts. I actually work in the Houston area testing gasoline that comes in from the ship channel. Ethanol is added in gasoline to make the octane rating higher. Of course some gasoline don't need ethanol if its really good stuff. Ethanol is added to make lower grade gasoline have a higher octane rating. But ethanol is isn't bad for your vehicle. I tested a lower grade gasoline earlier this morning and the octane rating came out to be around an 84. Then we added 10% ethanol in the gas and it came out to be an 88 afterward. Of course we all want the best for our cars so im gonna give you the top 2 best and top 2 worse gas(from what I've herd at work) to put in your car:

Best: #1Shell #2 Chevron

Worst: Valero and Walmart brand. Whatever that brand may be. i just herd that its BAD!
 
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