***GTSPEC Front Brace(s) Group Buy***

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Kwame_z1

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We had great success with the rear braces and now that the front braces will soon be available we are offering a group buy on them as well. This group buy is going to be executed a little different than the one we set up for the rear braces. It will actually go down well.... like a group buy really should.:6wink:

At the current moment the front braces have not been produced yet. Those who choose to participate in this group buy will be the first FX owners to own these front braces.

The deadline for this Group buy is 12:00 am on September 1st. We must meet our mandatory criteria of at least 20 orders of each of the front braces and anyone who wants to receive the group buy pricing must have their orders placed by this date. We will start accepting orders immediately.

The ETA for the braces will be 4 weeks after the order is officially placed with GT SPEC. The order will be placed on September 1st.

Here are the parts that will be available through this group buy:

Front Lower Engine Tie Brace - $259 List - Group Buy Price $233 shipped in the lower 48 States
Front 4 Point Ladder Brace - $249 List - Group Buy Price - $224 shipped in the lower 48 States

Combo Deal:

Front Lower Engine Tie Brace + Front 4 Point Ladder Brace - $508 List - Group Buy Price - $441 shipped in the lower 48 states

These braces have confirmed fitments for both the FX35 and FX45. All necessary hardware is included (with the exception of the OEM bolts that are reused).

Front Lower Engine Tie Brace

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Front 4 Point Ladder Brace

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Payment Details:

There are three ways in which we can accept payment for group buy orders; Cash, Credit Card or Paypal.

Cash: Payments are only accepted in person. We cannot confirm your order for the group buy until we have your payment in our hand.


Credit Card: Credit card payments can be made by phone. We accept Mastercard, Visa, American Express and Discover. Our phone number and hours of operation are as follows:

Phone number: 631.863.3820
Hours: Monday-Friday 10:30am - 6pm

When you call please have the following information handy:

Your Name
Your Address (billing address must be the same as shipping address)
Your Telephone Number
your E-mail Address
Your Infinitiscene Screenname
What Products You Are Ordering

Paypal: Our paypal address is z1sales@z1auto.com . When sending your paypal payment please include the following information:

Your Name
Your Address (billing address must be the same as shipping address)
Your Telephone Number
your E-mail Address
Your Infinitiscene Screenname
What Products You Are Ordering

For those of you who missed out on the first group buy on the rear braces, I will be posting up a new thread for those braces shortly after I finish typing up this post. WE WILL NOT BE DOING A COMBO DEAL THAT INCLUDES FRONT BRACES AND REAR BRACES TOGETHER!!!
I did not bother to copy and paste the list from the presale thread because I didn't see the need to (no offense to anyone). I will create a new list and post it in this thread based on the paid orders that we receive so that everyone participating in this group buy will know where we stand in our run to reach to 20 ordered braces each.

If you have any further questions please feel free to post them up here or to send me a PM.

Thanks,
Kwame


 
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I will update this post regularly to alert everyone interested of where we stand with the orders.

Paid Orders:

Front Lower Engine Tie Brace

1. BaBaLuwee - Infinitiscene
2. Fothion - Infinitiscene
3. gchristopher9 - Infinitiscene
4. VGBSUPERFLY7 - Infinitifx.org
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Front 4 Point Ladder Brace

1. BaBaLuwee - Infinitiscene
2. Fothion - Infinitiscene
3. gchristopher9 - Infinitiscene
4. VGBSUPERFLY7 - Infinitifx.org
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ok, 1 question. suppose we wind up getting some paid orders but fall short of the 20 each required on these pieces, then what? extend the time? refund the participants?

wouldn't a deposit deal work better than a full payment deal in a case like this, IE: 25% deposit due now to be included & confirmed, then, when the list hits the requirement, full payments are required by the 1st? just a thought... I mean it's one thing to have enough guys want to shell out over $400 for these, it's another to try & get enough guys to shell out over $400 & then have to wait 1.5 months for product.

just a few thoughts, don't mean to cause any problems more trying to help insure sucess at these kinds of numbers...
 
As far as I understood, 20 tie braces AND 20 ladder braces must be ordered for the group buy to commence, right? And we have to pay FIRST and see if the group buy happens or not?? And I'm guessing you'll refund the payments if the requirements can't be met? Why not form a list of people interested (instead of paid) and let people update as they pay for it?
 
turbocad6 said:
ok, 1 question. suppose we wind up getting some paid orders but fall short of the 20 each required on these pieces, then what? extend the time? refund the participants?

wouldn't a deposit deal work better than a full payment deal in a case like this, IE: 25% deposit due now to be included & confirmed, then, when the list hits the requirement, full payments are required by the 1st? just a thought... I mean it's one thing to have enough guys want to shell out over $400 for these, it's another to try & get enough guys to shell out over $400 & then have to wait 1.5 months for product.

just a few thoughts, don't mean to cause any problems more trying to help insure sucess at these kinds of numbers...
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I appreciate your thoughts. However, unfortunately a deposit isn't enough of a commitment for these items.

We've been doing this for a long time and this is how we have achieved success on previous group buys. We will re-evaluate things if we haven't reached the orders we need as we approach our deadline. If we only need a few more orders than perhaps we will extend the deadline, if we are nowhere near the orders we need then that will show us that the interest really isn't there and we will cancel the group buy all together and refund anyone who has paid us up to that point.

If you think waiting 1.5 months is too long, I'm not sure what to tell you. These braces have not been produced yet. The first production run is going to be strictly for this group buy. We are the only ones offering these braces as of right now and if you were to order one outside of the group buy we could not get these to you any faster if we wanted to.
 
personally I have no problem waiting, nor paying in advance since that is whats required. I've got patience myself... I'm more thinking of the masses here & best shot at meeting the goals of 20&20... I can see the terms causing many to hesitate, but if that's the terms then that's the terms... best of luck & I would love to see it go through because I do want these... my payment will be in as soon as I can make it:tongue:
 
EgeFx said:
As far as I understood, 20 tie braces AND 20 ladder braces must be ordered for the group buy to commence, right? And we have to pay FIRST and see if the group buy happens or not?? And I'm guessing you'll refund the payments if the requirements can't be met? Why not form a list of people interested (instead of paid) and let people update as they pay for it?
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Guys/gals I'm not trying to be harsh or be a jerk but there really isn't any other way to say this, but there is no group buy if no one pays. What good is an interested list going to do? It's not as if there are a limited amount of braces available and its first come first serve.

Its just like special ordering an item, you pay up front and when the item comes in 4-6 weeks you will receive it. If you don't pay in full up front you can be assured that a vendor is not going to be willing to order your item from a manufacturer with the possibility of that vendor getting stuck with pay the remaining balance out of pocket. If the interest isn't there, we will find out by 9/1/08 and refund anyone who has paid up until that point.

GTSPEC is not going to rush to make 20 braces just to sit on them, especially if they have a vendor offering them at discount pricing and still they can't even get 20 truly interested FX owners.
 
Kwame_z1 said:
I'm going to try and post this on the other FX board as well, if they allow me too.
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Try JohnMax & Datman. Datman was pretty excited about it and he ran a GB over there a couple of months ago. Good luck with it..
 
I'll be perfectly honest and say that I'm not a fan at all of the terms on this group buy, and it's the first I've come across with terms like this. I'm hesitant at placing an order... I may just wait instead.

What happens if this GB doesn't go through? Obviously there will never be this group buy price offered again... so then you'll have these stocked every so often?
 
Cube said:
I'll be perfectly honest and say that I'm not a fan at all of the terms on this group buy, and it's the first I've come across with terms like this. I'm hesitant at placing an order... I may just wait instead.

What happens if this GB doesn't go through? Obviously there will never be this group buy price offered again... so then you'll have these stocked every so often?
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What is it about the terms of this group buy that you are not a fan of?

What is it that is so different about this group buy that is so different about any other group buy? Is it the fact that you have to pay in full to confirm your order? Is it that a minimum amount of orders are necessary in order to guarantee group buy pricing? Is it the fact that you have to wait 4 weeks to receive your item(s)? I am completely lost on what is so weird, peculiar or disagreeable with the terms of this group buy. If you are hesitant than fine, I am not forcing you or anyone else to place your order. What strikes me as odd is how fast you were to put your name on the "Presale List" (within the first 10 minutes to be exact, http://infinitiscene.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2765&highlight=spec) but now that this is actually coming to fruition you are now hesitant.

To each his own, I guess we will find out how legit the "Presale List" is by September 1st. That list had 20 names within the first 12 hours of its creation and 23 names total at the last count. Out of those 23 total names, 18 of them said they wanted both braces, so far 2 have paid (Which I want to clearly state I am not complaining about. I think thats a great pace to be on considering I only posted up the details this evening, and others have said that they will be paying as soon as they can which I also appreciate). I don't see why 20 of each braces seems like such a difficult achievement to some.

Folks this is a group buy! The purchases must be made as a group. In order for us to receive special pricing from GTSpec that we pass on to you guys/gals as customers we have to have a minimum amount of confirmed orders. This is the case with ANY manufacturer. How can we order 20 of each of these braces, which is what is required for us to give you discounted pricing, if we don't have customers who have paid? You honestly expect us as a shop to order and pay out of our own pocket for 20 of each of these braces which were created for a very limited market? You honestly expect GTSpec, as a manufacturer, to be in any kind of rush to bring these to the market if they see that we can't even sell 20 of each of these front braces at discounted pricing?

If this group buy does not go through, then like I have already stated twice, those who have paid prior to the 1st of September will have their funds returned to them. Will we offer another group buy? No. Logically why would we? Will we stock these? No. Logically why would we? If they don't sell at discounted pricing how could we expect to sell them at regular pricing? In addition, I trust that you won't see GTSpec in any rush to pump these out any time soon if the results here are unfavorable.
 
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Sup all.

I'm not sure if I should look back at the dates on the rear pieces but I'm pretty sure we waited a long time for them. With the manufacturer and the vendor that's working with the manufacturer on bringing these to market giving us a date of when they would be shipped I'm not sure what the big difference is from before.

The obvious difference is the price of the product for both the manufacturer and the consumer. We are a pretty niche market, not that much stuff is made specifically for us that was not adapted from some other vehicle. The G/Z community I'm sure moves decent amount of the the rear pieces, the mid ladder is probably a slower seller due to it's location. These front pieces are not like the G/Z parts, and personally how many of these would sell for the life of the product line? The rear pieces are smaller, cheaper priced, and easy to install.

If I were anywhere in the middle of the food chain on these parts I'd be concerned about footing the bill if I was required to front the money on a 8k load of product.

My 2cents.
 
In my opinion, I think we should be glad that we have a vendor willing to sponsor a GB for us. It's really rare to see anything made for our vehicle. I think if we lose interest in new products, there will be no future R&D. You get the drift?

I think it's still early in the month. Some of us (me...) spent quite a bit of $$$ on rims and tires recently and I need to convince my wife to fork over more money to me so I can buy more toys. I'm sure we'll have plenty of folks interested pretty soon. I will jump on this as soon as I get my next expense reimbursement from my firm :cool:

Let's keep this GB going!
 
Kwame_z1 said:
What is it about the terms of this group buy that you are not a fan of?

What is it that is so different about this group buy that is so different about any other group buy? Is it the fact that you have to pay in full to confirm your order? Is it that a minimum amount of orders are necessary in order to guarantee group buy pricing? Is it the fact that you have to wait 4 weeks to receive your item(s)? I am completely lost on what is so weird, peculiar or disagreeable with the terms of this group buy. If you are hesitant than fine, I am not forcing you or anyone else to place your order. What strikes me as odd is how fast you were to put your name on the "Presale List" (within the first 10 minutes to be exact, http://infinitiscene.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2765&highlight=spec) but now that this is actually coming to fruition you are now hesitant.

To each his own, I guess we will find out how legit the "Presale List" is by September 1st. That list had 20 names within the first 12hrs of its creation and 23 names total at the last count. Out of those 23 total names, 18 of them said they wanted both braces so far 2 have paid (Which I want to clearly state I am not complaining about. I think thats a great pace to be on considering I only posted up the details this evening, and others have said that they will be paying as soon as they can which I also appreciate). I don't see why 20 of each braces seems like such a difficult achievement to some.

Folks this is a group buy! The purchases must be made as a group. In order for us to receive special pricing from GTSpec that we pass on to you guys/gals as customers we have to have a minimum amount of confirmed orders. This is the case with ANY manufacturer. How can we order 20 of each of these braces, which is what is required for us to give you discounted pricing, if we don't have customers who have paid? You honestly expect us as a shop to order and pay out of our own pocket for 20 of each of theses braces which were created for a very limited market? You honestly expect GTSpec, as a manufacturer, to be in any kind of rush to bring these to the market if they see that we can't even sell 20 of each of these front braces at discounted pricing?

If this group buy does not go through, then like I have already stated twice, those who have paid prior to the 1st of September will have their funds returned to them. Will we offer another group buy? No. Logically why would we? Will we stock these? No. Logically why would we? If they don't sell at discounted pricing how could we expect sell them at regular pricing? In addition, I trust that you won't see GTSpec in any rush to pump these out any time soon if the results here are unfavorable.
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if YOU don't mind me asking... what exactly about the last group buy did you NOT like? Did it not go as well as you expected? Did you guys sell ALL the rear braces? Just wondering...
 
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