Great possibility of letting her go :(

Kinda sounding like if the little woman makes you get rid of the FX we are going to track you down and kick yer ass..... =)
 
John i wouldnt like to drive A Volt... the volt give 40-60 miles on eletricity.. and my job is 37 miles away plus i can charge it back up again once i get there.... so i wont have to use fuel at all.. thats the only way i like it.. i m ean is hard as it is driving the honda.. i press on the gas and 10 minutes later i feel the car moving.. lol i dont imagine the volt will be any better.

as a now im winning the fight so if i keep talking to her i'll probably end up keeping my baby..
 
oh, it's fully electric?... shows how much I look at those things I guess:smile (2): donno man, 40-60 miles range & work at 37 miles, cutting it a bit close, better not stray off track much & hope there aren't too many uphills in any one direction :rofl: what if you have to leave early before it's fully recharged? won't make it home? plus, ok no fuel, but electricity isn't free either... so if your electric bill goes up by ~$80 a month, just add another $80 & theres your fuel for the month, then take the car payment out of the picture...... plus hows work going to be about hooking up an electrical service for your charging? can you just use a really long regular extension cord? I would expect you're going to need more than just a really long light weight extension cord to charge it no? come on man, you can talk her out of it:wink: I'd hate to think of what my wife would look like if she ever told me to get rid of my fx:tonguey:
 
The Volt has the ability to go full-electric, but also has a gas motor that extends the range by a couple hundred miles or something.
You're (turbocad) spot on with the electricity costs though. The real benefit lies in lowered (or eliminated in full electric mode) emmissions. Considering the ridiculously high sticker price of the Volt this early in it's lifespan, it's pretty safe to say that owners won't be saving much money overall any time in the near future.
I could be wrong, but I think the 4-ish hour recharge time is assuming a 220v outlet as well, which is not exactly readily available in the real world.

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another thing I keep thinking when it comes to these electric vehicles... the batteries. I mean I don't think were anywhere near the battery technology that would be necessary for electric to be great at this point. the batteries will deteriorate with each depletion & diminish from the first use & capacity will go down from there with each charge, eventually needing replacement in what? maybe 3 years max? so what happens when in 3 years you have to spend equal to 2 years worth of fx fuel just to replace the batteries???
 
turbocad6 said:
oh, it's fully electric?... shows how much I look at those things I guess:smile (2): donno man, 40-60 miles range & work at 37 miles, cutting it a bit close, better not stray off track much & hope there aren't too many uphills in any one direction :rofl: what if you have to leave early before it's fully recharged? won't make it home? plus, ok no fuel, but electricity isn't free either... so if your electric bill goes up by ~$80 a month, just add another $80 & theres your fuel for the month, then take the car payment out of the picture...... plus hows work going to be about hooking up an electrical service for your charging? can you just use a really long regular extension cord? I would expect you're going to need more than just a really long light weight extension cord to charge it no? come on man, you can talk her out of it:wink: I'd hate to think of what my wife would look like if she ever told me to get rid of my fx:tonguey:
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lol.. nah man.. it give you 40-60 mile from the battery till it switch to fuel.. once it run on fuel it will start recharging the battery back up..

you can use a regular extension cord in conjunction with the car's plug.. itll take longer to charge tho.. they sell a part that once you install it in your house itll let you fully charge it within 4 hours.. its a great commuter car for the city...


im winning bro im def winning this fight... lol i told her itll be cheaper to keep the FX and invest some money in replacing old part(MODS):tup: lol ..
 
Rubare said:
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they sell a part that once you install it in your house itll let you fully charge it within 4 hours..
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Bro, it's not a "part", it's a sub-panel with a 220V outlet and a special plug that fits the car. At minimum it requires running a large wire from your main electrical panel to the location of the new panel, (hope you have a garage) where your Volt will be parked. Worst case scenario is that your existing panel won't allow for the upgrade in which case you have to replace the panel with a larger version (between $1000-$2000) and upgrade your service to supply that new panel (another $1000). THEN you'll be able to charge the Volt in 4hrs...during which time your electrical meter will be spinning fast enough to attract nearby planets...

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trainerKEN said:
I know you won't have to pay for gas with the Volt... but won't you have to put up money to get the car? How will it weigh out?
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thats where selling the FX or trading it would have come into place.... itll be less amount of a monthly payment plus saving on gas...

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tchuck said:
Bro, it's not a "part", it's a sub-panel with a 220V outlet and a special plug that fits the car. At minimum it requires running a large wire from your main electrical panel to the location of the new panel, (hope you have a garage) where your Volt will be parked. Worst case scenario is that your existing panel won't allow for the upgrade in which case you have to replace the panel with a larger version (between $1000-$2000) and upgrade your service to supply that new panel (another $1000). THEN you'll be able to charge the Volt in 4hrs...during which time your electrical meter will be spinning fast enough to attract nearby planets...

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dont they sell 110v to 220v converters?? lol
 
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Is this true?!
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Obviously it was an exaggeration, but suffice it to say it takes a lot of power to charge a battery bank that big. Exactly how much it will cost would depend on the electricity rates in your area and the time of day you choose to charge.

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dont they sell 110v to 220v converters?? lol
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I wish. The higher power demand requires larger gauge wiring, which is why a converter at the charging location isn't feasible. I've had to upgrade a couple main panels in order to install an additional 220 outlet (one for a electric flash water heater and one for a pool equipment room).. Sometimes they are cheap and easy (if you have a garage and the main panel is on the same wall as the charging station) and sometimes they aren't (main panel too small and inside, on the opposite end of house.). It depends on your situation. I'd definitely suggest researching it yourself thoroughly before signing papers.

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Rubare said:
i dont think its entirely true.. they said that charging the Volt everyday would increase the electric bill by 1.50 per day.. so i'll be like 46 extra dollars a month on your electric bill...
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Here's an example of the calculation. Just substitute the number in yellow for the electricity cost in your area...

First, the Chevy Volt battery pack is specified to be able to store 16 KWH of power.
Second, according to my electric bill, I pay 10.77 cents per KWH for electric supply plus 5.8 cents per KWH for electric delivery. This totals to 16.5 cents per KWH.
Next, to fully charge the Volt’s 16 KWH battery, I will have to supply it with 16 KWH of energy. This will cost me 16.5 cents X 16 KWH = $2.64.
Thus, it will cost me $2.64 to fully charge the Volt’s battery, that energy will allow the car to travel 40 miles.
So in conclusion, it will cost me $2.64 to travel 40 miles, which is roughly the cost of a gallon of gas, in a car that gets 40 mpg.


With these numbers, driving a Volt would not save you any money over driving an ICE vehicle that gets 40mpg.
 
tchuck said:
Here's an example of the calculation. Just substitute the number in yellow for the electricity cost in your area...

First, the Chevy Volt battery pack is specified to be able to store 16 KWH of power.
Second, according to my electric bill, I pay 10.77 cents per KWH for electric supply plus 5.8 cents per KWH for electric delivery. This totals to 16.5 cents per KWH.
Next, to fully charge the Volt’s 16 KWH battery, I will have to supply it with 16 KWH of energy. This will cost me 16.5 cents X 16 KWH = $2.64.
Thus, it will cost me $2.64 to fully charge the Volt’s battery, that energy will allow the car to travel 40 miles.
So in conclusion, it will cost me $2.64 to travel 40 miles, which is roughly the cost of a gallon of gas, in a car that gets 40 mpg.


With these numbers, driving a Volt would not save you any money over driving an ICE vehicle that gets 40mpg.
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the calculations done here do not take into account any inefficiencies in conversion, which there will be some. it also does not take into account any static loss & any wasted energy of which there will also be some... it also doesn't take into account the cost of replacement batteries in a few years & the degradation of capacity in that time period too, at which point all averaged out, in the end the volt probably is about as efficient as a HD GMC dualie or something once you factor in all the costs:tonguey:...

I remember when electric vehicles first came out, forgot who it was, either toyota or honda maybe, they had an electric vehicle that you would lease, but could not buy... the reason was that after a few years the costs of maintenance & servicing & replacing the cells would be astronomical & it wasn't reasonable for an end user to absorb these costs. the vehicle was leased at a loss & the government subsidized the costs, even though it made no sense economically it was something done in the name of research & advancing the technology & was partially government funded. honestly in my opinion, although I do happen to really love electric technology, I'd say that the batteries are still the biggest reason why electric cars are not ready for main steam yet. in my opinion buying an electric car right now is kinda like buying a beta max vcr... I'd think you'd wind up kicking yourself later unless you just lease it for 2-3 years, I would def recommend against buying one right now.
 
GroundFx said:
So the GF's dad leased her an Accord and you want a Volt & a luxury SUV for weekends?

Why are you worried about the cost of fuel?
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Well we need two cars one for her to go to school and the other one for me to go to work.. Me driving the FX to work every day will burn a huge hole in my pocket.. My gf's college is closer than my job so she's being using the FX and I have being using the Honda since its better when it come to fuel efficiency. Now with that said..

The volt come into place if I sell my FX(now) or when the accord's leased is over.. Now if I had money like that, gas wouldn't be a issue but since I don't + I don't like to throw my money away We are trying to get a electrical car with great MPG and a TDI(diesel) Q7.

So the only new vehicle coming in any time soon would be the Volt if we sell the FX.
 
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