GB - New CREE DTRL bulbs available
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- 2004 FX35 AWD
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- John Green
The stock DTRL bulbs are 5 watt so I'm wondering what the DTRL relay is rated for?
All I could find was that it is called out as ---E-15 Relay.
I'm going to take my flickering bulb and hook it straight to a power source and see if flicker comes back tonight.
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All I could find was that it is called out as ---E-15 Relay.
I'm going to take my flickering bulb and hook it straight to a power source and see if flicker comes back tonight.
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Come on up to Big Bear this weekend and we can take a look.
I just tested out the reverse lights in the dark and am not impressed. I think the OEM bulbs work better. Our bulb socket is naturally pointed slightly outward, but it doesn't matter with OEM bulbs because the reflector directs most of the light behind the car. With these LED's, the light is all directed outward and concentrated in one area instead of behind you. I think the OEM filament bulb or a wedge LED is a better option for the reverse lights.
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- 2007 FX35 RWD
I have no issue testing out bulbs for them to help get to a final product that works, but at least tell us that up front. Not that these things are great and work.
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I noticed that too at first. Thought I put the bulb in crooked. Lights that don't scatter light don't work well in our cars. Once it gets dark I'm going to test out mine, and see if the look is worth the blindness.
JLCLighting
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Let me apologize for this problem, I am currently having a tech from R&D figuring this out. I have a local FX35 coming in tomorrow to test all wattage problems and see what the issue is.
For all TL that uses 9005/9006 there is no problem. But I will sure get this fixed.
Other than this issue, a few more sets of replacements are currently being sent off. Will keep everything posted. Thank you. Again apologies for the flickering issues.
For all TL that uses 9005/9006 there is no problem. But I will sure get this fixed.
Other than this issue, a few more sets of replacements are currently being sent off. Will keep everything posted. Thank you. Again apologies for the flickering issues.
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- 2004 FX35 AWD
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- John Green
Independent Bulb Test Done Today.
I just finished running some tests of my own independent of the vehicle----
I took the bulb that was flickering and hooked it up directly to a battery and flickering was immediate.
I checked the supply voltage from the battery and had 12.7 volts.
The following times are not indicative of total times lite went out but rather just to see if intervals were changing.
5:00pm
I connected the bulb that was working good when I had them installed on the FX.
5:15pm
I checked the operating temperature of the bulb and got a reading of around 175 degrees.
5:38pm
First Flicker on and off.
5:41pm
light went out for 5 seconds and stayed on for 27.06 seconds.
5:44pm
light went out for 1.2 seconds and stayed on for 22.32 seconds.
5:45pm
light went out for 2.2 seconds and stayed on for 26.37 seconds.
5:47pm
light went out for 3.8 seconds and stayed on for 28.20 seconds.
5:51pm
light went out for 3.02 seconds and stayed on for 27.12 seconds.
6pm
light went out for 3.02 seconds and stayed on for 23.70 seconds.
I checked finish votage at 12.7 volts.
You get the Idea they are staying on for approxamately 27 seconds and the flickering off for around 3 seconds. At operating tempatures of over 170 to 180 degrees they seem to be overheating. And this was out in the open those temeratures would most likely be much higher in the confined space of the headlight area.
In conclussion unless the old style bulbs were shipped by mistake I am convinced there is still a problem with these bulbs being used for extended use over a minute or two at a time.
I would suggest that any bulbs to be are shipped be bench run for at least 45 minutes before shipping.
BTW I'm down two bulbs now.
I just finished running some tests of my own independent of the vehicle----
I took the bulb that was flickering and hooked it up directly to a battery and flickering was immediate.
I checked the supply voltage from the battery and had 12.7 volts.
The following times are not indicative of total times lite went out but rather just to see if intervals were changing.
5:00pm
I connected the bulb that was working good when I had them installed on the FX.
5:15pm
I checked the operating temperature of the bulb and got a reading of around 175 degrees.
5:38pm
First Flicker on and off.
5:41pm
light went out for 5 seconds and stayed on for 27.06 seconds.
5:44pm
light went out for 1.2 seconds and stayed on for 22.32 seconds.
5:45pm
light went out for 2.2 seconds and stayed on for 26.37 seconds.
5:47pm
light went out for 3.8 seconds and stayed on for 28.20 seconds.
5:51pm
light went out for 3.02 seconds and stayed on for 27.12 seconds.
6pm
light went out for 3.02 seconds and stayed on for 23.70 seconds.
I checked finish votage at 12.7 volts.
You get the Idea they are staying on for approxamately 27 seconds and the flickering off for around 3 seconds. At operating tempatures of over 170 to 180 degrees they seem to be overheating. And this was out in the open those temeratures would most likely be much higher in the confined space of the headlight area.
In conclussion unless the old style bulbs were shipped by mistake I am convinced there is still a problem with these bulbs being used for extended use over a minute or two at a time.
I would suggest that any bulbs to be are shipped be bench run for at least 45 minutes before shipping.
BTW I'm down two bulbs now.
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JLCLighting
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A hold has been put on the shipments that are currently coming in, member please hold off on the payments. As soon as we address this issue and get the problem resolved and tested thoroughly we will notify IS. JLC is very sorry for this happening. Will keep everyone posted but please allow 5 days for us to test out everything and make sure it is a consistent bulb prior to sending out any more bulbs. I personally do not want any members thinking that this bulb we are creating are bad for a $35 hefty price. Anyhow, this was a prototype that worked for the TL and was never tested for the 7440/7443 harness. We will have the FX35 come in tomorrow and start all testing. Thank you IS.
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- 2004 FX35 AWD
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- John Green
JLCLighting
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That issue was raised with the R&D Tech as well.
aretardedorange
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Sorry to hear the infiniti people having problems with these lights. As a result I have decided not to buy these DRL. I did however get the reverse lights. The reverse lights are okay in my opinion. They are brighter then stock but like poster above said each bulb has one LED bulb that is focused. So it points straight out. The beam is not wide.
I also tested these bulbs in my 2008 BMW 5 series. The 5 series has a smaller reverse lens compared to my TL. The output was similar but I did get a error in the 5. I was getting reverse bulb out error. Seems you need resistors to run these. After the error the light started flickering. I had the error coded out and no more flickering.
I have a hunch you guys with the infiniti might need resistors/modules to solve your flickering issues. LED bulb uses less power then the normal reverse bulb so the cars computer can be thinking the bulb is out which starts the flickering. This is why the TL needs the $35 module. In my 5 when I first installed HID fogs they would flicker and turn off. Problem was the computer thought the fogs were dead so I had to get a resistor module to have them stop flickering. They have been fine ever since.
I hope all the issue work out and I will be following this thread. Hopefully JLC can make everything right.
Lets hope the biggest group buy does not turn out to be the worst group buy.
I also tested these bulbs in my 2008 BMW 5 series. The 5 series has a smaller reverse lens compared to my TL. The output was similar but I did get a error in the 5. I was getting reverse bulb out error. Seems you need resistors to run these. After the error the light started flickering. I had the error coded out and no more flickering.
I have a hunch you guys with the infiniti might need resistors/modules to solve your flickering issues. LED bulb uses less power then the normal reverse bulb so the cars computer can be thinking the bulb is out which starts the flickering. This is why the TL needs the $35 module. In my 5 when I first installed HID fogs they would flicker and turn off. Problem was the computer thought the fogs were dead so I had to get a resistor module to have them stop flickering. They have been fine ever since.
I hope all the issue work out and I will be following this thread. Hopefully JLC can make everything right.
Lets hope the biggest group buy does not turn out to be the worst group buy.
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- 2007 FX35 RWD
Gonna go test out my reverse lights now, and those comparison shots I was talking about.
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Pics! I noticed there's one spot where they are bright in the direction of the bulb.
Left them on for 5 minutes and no issues. I did noticed the plastic felt much warmer to the touch with the OEM bulb. I couldn't leave my hand on it for more than a second. However, the JLC one didn't feel noticeably warmer.
Standing at the front looking back:
View from about 10 feet away:
How it lights up behind:
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Pics! I noticed there's one spot where they are bright in the direction of the bulb.
Left them on for 5 minutes and no issues. I did noticed the plastic felt much warmer to the touch with the OEM bulb. I couldn't leave my hand on it for more than a second. However, the JLC one didn't feel noticeably warmer.
Standing at the front looking back:
View from about 10 feet away:
How it lights up behind:
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What you said makes sense in general but when MTN FX hooked up the bulbs directly to the battery it still flickered. Doesn't that mean that something's up with the bulbs themselves? I'm not saying that we will not need modules (in fact, we may) but I don't think that's the primary issue here.
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