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Try looking at something for sale in Miami! They're definition of mint or new is more like junk or ancient. I can't tell you how many cars, boats, motorcycles I looked at in SE Florida that were absolute total contradictions of what was stated in the ads. Buyer beware is a VERY true statement, more true in some places than others!
 
Vossen rims are a high priority to thieves. They love robbing them. They went as far as to rob the Vossen warehouse not too long ago if you havent heard.
 
I've posted this before, but this is my deterrent.

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