bad new for anyone who wants to turbo there fx45

I posted a while ago, but a local shop did a STS turbo on a 2006 Infiniti M45.

Unichip and Uprev can both manage.

Everything is available, even internals. Just need $25k to do it right. A low boost single STS done right is probably $12k.

Better to spend on NA at that point. You can even stroke it, get a custom crank, etc... Again, limit is money.
 
+1 Seriously: stroke it, sleeve it, crank, cams, port/polish, custom headers, pulleys.....add in the rest of the basic known power mods exhaust, CAI, E-fan and you should be pushing 380-400WHP with a totally reliable NA motor. The VK was built to be pushed.....
 
Logan said:
+1 Seriously: stroke it, sleeve it, crank, cams, port/polish, custom headers, pulleys.....add in the rest of the basic known power mods exhaust, CAI, E-fan and you should be pushing 380-400WHP with a totally reliable NA motor. The VK was built to be pushed.....
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I love when you guys talk sexy.:tonguey:
 
Chedman13 said:
I posted a while ago, but a local shop did a STS turbo on a 2006 Infiniti M45.

Unichip and Uprev can both manage.

Everything is available, even internals. Just need $25k to do it right. A low boost single STS done right is probably $12k.

Better to spend on NA at that point. You can even stroke it, get a custom crank, etc... Again, limit is money.
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And time!


Listen to this guy, he knows of what he speaks!

The STS kit "done right" will be more than $12K in my opinion because of two reasons.

One, the quality of the parts that come in the kit is so bad. I've seen a build first hand with an STS kit and all the pipe metal that comes with the kit is not high grade stuff. I saw a guy install the kit, then three months later rip out all the rusted pipes and had a shop remake with Stainless Steel. He considered getting the STS kit coated but it would have cost him more than he wanted to pay.

Two - No matter how you slice it, this is a custom install. The STS kit is indeed universal but you still need to fabricate (weld) all of the exhaust flange connections, the exhaust to turbo manifold, up pipe, hangers, isolation mounts & heat shielding. There will never be a kit for these items unless you convince a shop to develop one for a group buy. Even then they will just produce several at once and the "kit" will not be available for future buyers unless they organize a similar deal. The shop won't make more than they have committments to buy - there's just not a big enough market.

What you CAN do is collect all the parts that work for your build here on IS. Seems like you are starting with an STS kit and we are talking about that. It also sounds like you might have a shop you are talking to?

Once it comes time for install, you MUST be working with a shop unless you have some kind of hook-up? Finding the shop that will eventually do the install for you should be your first step. They will have certain products they know and trust and will want to use. You might pick what seems like a great product but if the shop isn't comfortable installing it or they have had bad experiences... plans change. Get them to look at the car on a rack and then count the number of welds they think they will need to do on the hot side of the STS kit. I believe the cold side uses silicone couplers?

Just trying to get you started on the right track - been down the custom FX build path myself and can help you avoid the pitfalls that I hit.
 
thansk for the heads up I have always liked what others have gone thru. Iif this kit cost that much im screwed. I live comfortably well for my age "25" but not that good 12k is a bit to much for a single mod like that :frown: that a whole car by itself lol. maybe ill try and talk myslef out of it and do basic bolt on's but I just want to feel that power and i hope these bolt on's will help!

jumbosrule said:
And time!


Listen to this guy, he knows of what he speaks!

The STS kit "done right" will be more than $12K in my opinion because of two reasons.

One, the quality of the parts that come in the kit is so bad. I've seen a build first hand with an STS kit and all the pipe metal that comes with the kit is not high grade stuff. I saw a guy install the kit, then three months later rip out all the rusted pipes and had a shop remake with Stainless Steel. He considered getting the STS kit coated but it would have cost him more than he wanted to pay.

Two - No matter how you slice it, this is a custom install. The STS kit is indeed universal but you still need to fabricate (weld) all of the exhaust flange connections, the exhaust to turbo manifold, up pipe, hangers, isolation mounts & heat shielding. There will never be a kit for these items unless you convince a shop to develop one for a group buy. Even then they will just produce several at once and the "kit" will not be available for future buyers unless they organize a similar deal. The shop won't make more than they have committments to buy - there's just not a big enough market.

What you CAN do is collect all the parts that work for your build here on IS. Seems like you are starting with an STS kit and we are talking about that. It also sounds like you might have a shop you are talking to?

Once it comes time for install, you MUST be working with a shop unless you have some kind of hook-up? Finding the shop that will eventually do the install for you should be your first step. They will have certain products they know and trust and will want to use. You might pick what seems like a great product but if the shop isn't comfortable installing it or they have had bad experiences... plans change. Get them to look at the car on a rack and then count the number of welds they think they will need to do on the hot side of the STS kit. I believe the cold side uses silicone couplers?

Just trying to get you started on the right track - been down the custom FX build path myself and can help you avoid the pitfalls that I hit.
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I don't know if they still do it, but Deatschworks used to modify injectors. I had a VQ30 Maxima and no one made aftermarket injectors. So when I did the custom turbo, I swapped to 300ZX TT injectors which were 370cc at first, but then ran out of injector. That was when Deatschworks first came out with their injectors which were essentially modified OEM injectors with all of the shims removed. It took the 245cc injector up to a 670cc. They were relatively inexpensive as well.

And FWIW, as some others have said, the STS kit is junk. Especially the universal one, you could piece together the same thing from any catalog. It's basically a turbo, oil pump, and some universal mandrel bends. If you have to custom fab it anyways, just have the turbo put in the engine bay. You won't have to deal with an extra 8 ft. of piping or worry about hanging your turbo and oil lines at the lowest point of the car.
 
Never mind the injectors.. The Tranny is what has killed me.

Manual is the way to go but I love the tiptronic trans that we have.

Only option was the R34 tranny and that fell through for me.

I kind of gave up on this but never fear.. October should be epic for me.

I hope to complete a SC system on my ride.

Hence the bigger mouth on my new fascia. Only time will tell
 
so your saying our tranny will not handle that amount of power with the turbo/bolt on mods? When will it ever end,lol how are you managing a SC in the future? You know I wish some of these after market companies would show us some love! Watch in the far future when I decide on a new project Turbonetics will come out with a fully bolt on TT all plug and play. oh wait and they will have headers for a dime a dozen. I bet just watch!:tongue (2):

HumbertoCALI said:
Never mind the injectors.. The Tranny is what has killed me.

Manual is the way to go but I love the tiptronic trans that we have.

Only option was the R34 tranny and that fell through for me.

I kind of gave up on this but never fear.. October should be epic for me.

I hope to complete a SC system on my ride.

Hence the bigger mouth on my new fascia. Only time will tell
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If you want something done, sometimes you have to do it yourself. Everything depends on your commitment to see it through to the end.

One thing to keep in the back of the mind is how much boost is enough? Answer, it's never enough. The STS kits are badazz IMO. The boost control can vary so someone must do a lot of testing and find a safe amount of lbs to run with stock internals. If you want more boost, gotta go forged.
 
good find! my friend. one question though and it may sound stupid. if you run bigger injectors as far as more cc's wont you need to deliver more fuel? so does that mean you will need to upgrade the fuel pump to pump more?
 
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Hey guys how do you like a sound of 850whp 06 fx35 awd

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We are just starting this build. It is an 06 FX35 AWD. We are pulling the 3.5L VQ and stoking it to a 4.0L. Then we are re-fabricating a Greddy twin turbo kit from a G35 to fit and upgrading to a pair of GT30R's with 800cc PE injectors and ROM tuning here in house. We also sent the AWD trans to Level 10 to have it built. They guarantee it to hold 900hp......we are going to test it thoroughly!! I just LOVE this build......

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I hope it will be the fastest fx in the country
 
alenas said:
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---------- Post added at 07:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 PM ----------

Hey guys how do you like a sound of 850whp 06 fx35 awd

---------- Post added at 07:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 PM ----------

We are just starting this build. It is an 06 FX35 AWD. We are pulling the 3.5L VQ and stoking it to a 4.0L. Then we are re-fabricating a Greddy twin turbo kit from a G35 to fit and upgrading to a pair of GT30R's with 800cc PE injectors and ROM tuning here in house. We also sent the AWD trans to Level 10 to have it built. They guarantee it to hold 900hp......we are going to test it thoroughly!! I just LOVE this build......

---------- Post added at 07:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:38 PM ----------

I hope it will be the fastest fx in the country
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Make your own thread and quit spamming posts. I'm sure everyone here would love to hear about it and see pictures once you get 10 posts.
 
Yes, you will need to upgrade the pump. There's an inverse relationship between flow and pressure with pumps so if you try to increase the flow too much, the pressure will drop. That's why on some of the big hp cars, you'll see 2 or 3 fuel pumps run together. I'm not sure what pumps are popular these days, but I always had good luck w/ the Walbro 255.

infinitifan25 said:
good find! my friend. one question though and it may sound stupid. if you run bigger injectors as far as more cc's wont you need to deliver more fuel? so does that mean you will need to upgrade the fuel pump to pump more?
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