2006 FX 35 AC Amplifier

peteybeats

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2006 Infiniti FX-35
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Pete
Hello -

I have been having rough starts in cold weather (surprise surprise) and it seems that the issue maybe the AC amplifier. Does anyone know what the part number is for this in the 2006? I have tried searching multiple sites including this forum but am not confident that I have found the answer. Right now I believe the number to be 27760-CL01A if someone could confirm that I would appreciate it.

Pete
 
27760-CL70A should be for the 06, shows production of 11/05-08/06

if you want to PM me your VIN number I can run it and get the exact part number for your car tomorrow at work
 
Any opinions on whether I should I just jump straight to replacing this? Or should I start with replacing my battery and plugs. My battery is about 4 years old. Not sure on the plugs as I have only had the car for a little over a year and a half.
 
Any opinions on whether I should I just jump straight to replacing this? Or should I start with replacing my battery and plugs. My battery is about 4 years old. Not sure on the plugs as I have only had the car for a little over a year and a half.

I also have an 06, replaced ac amp and problem came back, new battery fixed it... watch cca when buying a replacement as the vq35 needs a lot.


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I also have an 06, replaced ac amp and problem came back, new battery fixed it... watch cca when buying a replacement as the vq35 needs a lot.

What does CCA stand for?
Also what is the part number for a 2007? my car always takes 2 or 3 tries to get started, and it's not even cold yet. Battery seems fine, and recently changed the head cover gasket and all spark plugs.
And is it ok to buy a used AC Amp? Could i use one from a 2005 or 2006 even if the part numbers are different?
 
the number is 27760-8Y71A for 06-08 35's + 45's. The 03-05's have a different number so I'm pretty sure they won't work.
You can always buy used but thats risky, I bought a new one in 2015 for 350$ and never looked back, but today they cost 600$ new!
 
How does this part have anything to do with the starting process?
Thats the big question, even the mechanics don't know. I changed battery, fuel pumps, cam sensors and god know's what but nothing helped, I would have to crank anywhere from 3-10x before the thing would start, and it was summer! very embarrassing. I read about the AC amp and suggested it to the head mechanic, he had read about it too but couldn't see how that had anything to do with start up, I was about to give up so I just ordered the damm thing, it's a simple 15min swap. That was nearly 6 years ago, I've never had to crank more than once ever since........
The only explanation I could find was that the AC amp gathers climate information( outside temp, humidity, etc), sends it to the ECU and that determines the fuel/air mix on start up......... but if that's true:tdown:........ no idea.
 
Interesting. I wonder if it could be bipassed? That’s what I’ll attempt if I have that problem.
 
im openly wondering if changing my head unit will help this problem. Upon startup I have my seats moving, and I can hear the cd changer going through it’s motions. I doubt it causes too much of a load but is there any small chance those things affect the AC Amp during startup?

Interesting. I wonder if it could be bipassed? That’s what I’ll attempt if I have that problem.
 
im openly wondering if changing my head unit will help this problem. Upon startup I have my seats moving, and I can hear the cd changer going through it’s motions. I doubt it causes too much of a load but is there any small chance those things affect the AC Amp during startup?


I doubt it, there are couple of videos on you tube (FX35 cold start) about this, just check them out to see if it looks the same(long cranking and when it finally starts very low jumpy revs). The number 27760-8Y71A is for the revised AC amp, now why do you think they revised the AC amp:sneaky:
 
I checked out the videos on YouTube and the difference is I don’t ever get the low jumpy revs. Also it’s been about low 70s where I’m located so not realty cold.
Mechanic told me AC amplifier but based on what I’ve read on the internet my case might be different because it isn’t cold and I don’t have the low jumpy revs. This weekend I’m changing my head unit so I’ll be unplugging my battery for awhile I’ll report back and share if anything changes.

I doubt it, there are couple of videos on you tube (FX35 cold start) about this, just check them out to see if it looks the same(long cranking and when it finally starts very low jumpy revs). The number 27760-8Y71A is for the revised AC amp, now why do you think they revised the AC amp:sneaky:
 
Resurrecting this one, but given the plethora of uncertainty floating around still I think it's worth validating. I had the same starting issue intermittently for almost two years, over the course of which I replaced the fuel pump, the battery, and the alternator to no effect. Particularly on cold mornings (but not exclusively) the engine would require at least two cycles through the ignition with the starter turning over nicely before it would actually fire up. Both the dealer and my local mechanic were stumped and 'could not replicate the problem'.

After my wife threatening to make me sell the FX (and beginning to doubt my competence as a shadetree mechanic), $55 on eBay later I had a used AC amplifier in the dash and I haven't had an issue since.
 
Resurrecting this one, but given the plethora of uncertainty floating around still I think it's worth validating. I had the same starting issue intermittently for almost two years, over the course of which I replaced the fuel pump, the battery, and the alternator to no effect. Particularly on cold mornings (but not exclusively) the engine would require at least two cycles through the ignition with the starter turning over nicely before it would actually fire up. Both the dealer and my local mechanic were stumped and 'could not replicate the problem'.

After my wife threatening to make me sell the FX (and beginning to doubt my competence as a shadetree mechanic), $55 on eBay later I had a used AC amplifier in the dash and I haven't had an issue since.

Which model number for your used unit? I believe 27760-8Y71A is the “new” one that Infiniti rolled out after people had issues.
In my case, I had to change batteries and switched to a higher CCA (don’t remember exactly, 700 hundred something?) and that seemed to help immensely, but still maybe 1 out of 10 times it won’t turn on the first try.
 
27760 8Y70A is the part number on the one I bought. Rolling through a pretty chilly winter (all things relative for being in NC) and still no starting issues. I had replaced my battery as well, thinking that the CCA could be the issue, but the next year the problem returned.
 
I had a 2007 FX-35 a few years ago that had the hard starting problem. My story may be useful for others.

I bought the car used in 2010, and almost immediately I started having the hard start problem, mostly in cold or wet weather. My dealer was hopeless. They replaced the fuel pump under warranty, which didn't help. After a few more useless attempts at diagnosing the problem, they gambled on replacing the battery (which had tested fine). This worked, for a few months.

When it started happening again, I didn't bother with the dealer. I bought another battery with the highest CCA I could fit in there. This helped, but only briefly. Then I tried an expensive Optima battery, which helped for a bit longer.

Next, I got on Google and started researching the problem. I came across a single obscure post that said replacing my 27760-8Y70A AC Amplifier module (which I still have) with the newer 27760-8Y71A might help. It made no sense to me, but I didn't know what else to do, so I tried it. It worked! After this, I had no problems for maybe 3 years.

However, after 3 years it burned out a coil. My wife kept driving it for a few kilometers with the Check Engine light flashing, killing one of the catalytic converters. Shortly after replacing the coil and converter, another coil burned out, and I could see by the bulge on yet another coil that it would soon burn out as well. I pulled out all the spark plugs (one of the first things I'd replaced in 2010), and the gaps had gotten huge! This is very unusual in modern cars. I decided the coils were burning themselves out attempting to create enough voltage to jump those large gaps. After replacing all the spark plugs again, I had a few weeks of peace, and then another coil burned out.

After replacing this coil, and continuing with my theory that the coils were burning out from having to work too hard (even with new spark plugs), I decided to ensure the entire path back to the negative terminal of the battery needed to be cleaned up as much as possible, in order to minimize resistance. I took off every bolt and fitting connecting the engine to the ground cable, to the body, then back to the battery. I sanded and cleaned them so that bare metal was touching bare metal all along the way, with no rust, grease, or even paint to increase the resistance. After this, I had no more trouble.

After cleaning up the ground path seemed to have fixed my problems, I wondered if the new AC Amplifier never was the problem, but somehow the replacement one allowed the ignition system to run a higher voltage, which fairly effectively covered up the grounding problem, at least for a few years (but ended up killing a few coils). I never did test my theory, though. Unfortunately, the constant reliability problems had resulted in my wife, the principal driver, having a special hatred and distrust of the car. A year later, we sold it. I really do think I'd finally fixed its problems; I hope so, for the sake of the next owner.
 
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