Picture Request: GTR wheels (square set 20x9.5) w/ no spacers

[NorcalFX]

Hi all,

New member here, looking to get some new wheels. Someone is selling a set of 4 front GTR wheels (20x9.5). I'm seeing that some people recommend running spacers in the front, but I'm curious what the car would look like without any spacers.

Has anyone done this, or have a picture of the 20x9.5 GTR wheels all around on a 2nd gen FX? I'm running stock suspension, and don't plan on lowering.

 

[meme405]

I'm the one selling those wheels.

Not sure if anyone has pictures, but the wheels would be sunk inside the fenders some. Not quite as much as stock, but they certainly aren't going to be flush. To be flush you need a 10-15mm spacer up front and a 20-25mm spacer in the rear.

That should give you an idea of how sunken in these would be.

 

[Eothain]

I have a staggered setup on mine; couple pictures in my garage which will give you an idea of what the fronts will look like. My rears are obviously wider, but you can still get an idea of height. The front is tucked in slightly, and as meme said, you would need a 10-15mm spacer to get flush. I have a set of 10mm, but I haven't put them on yet. Also check out jbaker's garage and he has a photo/update thread from his FX50. He has a few pictures in there when he had GTRs on his.

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If I get a chance later today I'll try to take a profile pic of the front wheels and post for you.

 

[NorcalFX]

I have a staggered setup on mine; couple pictures in my garage which will give you an idea of what the fronts will look like. My rears are obviously wider, but you can still get an idea of height. The front is tucked in slightly, and as meme said, you would need a 10-15mm spacer to get flush. I have a set of 10mm, but I haven't put them on yet. Also check out jbaker's garage and he has a photo/update thread from his FX50. He has a few pictures in there when he had GTRs on his.

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If I get a chance later today I'll try to take a profile pic of the front wheels and post for you.

I saw the pic in your garage. Nice ride, it looks great! I'm not adamant about having my wheels sit flush, so if they sit similar to stock, or are even slightly more pushed out, I would be happy with that.

Thanks for the quick reply!

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Alright, I think I'm starting to understand this better. Please someone correct my logic if its wrong:

1. My OEM 20's are 20x8 ET 50mm, making the rim centerline at ~4"
2. GTR wheels are 9.5" width, so the rim centerline would be ~4.75" (making a centerline difference of 0.75", which would mean the rim would sit ~0.375" further out against the hub than stock)
3. GTR wheels ET is 45mm (5mm difference from OEM), which is just under 0.2"

So my conclusion, as Meme and Eothain said above, is that the GTR wheels should sit ~0.175" further out than stock. Is that correct?

 

[meme405]

I saw the pic in your garage. Nice ride, it looks great! I'm not adamant about having my wheels sit flush, so if they sit similar to stock, or are even slightly more pushed out, I would be happy with that.

Thanks for the quick reply!

---------- Post added at 10:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:21 AM ----------

Alright, I think I'm starting to understand this better. Please someone correct my logic if its wrong:

1. My OEM 20's are 20x8 ET 50mm, making the rim centerline at ~4"
2. GTR wheels are 9.5" width, so the rim centerline would be ~4.75" (making a centerline difference of 0.75", which would mean the rim would sit ~0.375" further out against the hub than stock)
3. GTR wheels ET is 45mm (5mm difference from OEM), which is just under 0.2"

So my conclusion, as Meme and Eothain said above, is that the GTR wheels should sit ~0.175" further out than stock. Is that correct?

Youve got it all right except for the direction on step number 3, the difference in offset pushes the wheel farther out. It will stick like .6 of an inch farther out that the stock wheels.

 

[NorcalFX]

Youve got it all right except for the direction on step number 3, the difference in offset pushes the wheel farther out. It will stick like .6 of an inch farther out that the stock wheels.

Oh! I thought the offset was the distance from rim centerline to where the rim meets the hub? Wouldn't a 50mm offset mean the distance is greater than 45mm?

Sorry, I can't post images or links yet, hoping a text URL will work. I saw some images of 30mm offset vs 45mm, and the distance looks greater as the offset increases.

EDIT: Here's the image I was looking at:

 

[Eothain]

When I first started shopping for GTR wheels I was looking for a square setup as well. Having an AWD it was a concern to be the same on all corners and I wanted to be able to rotate fully. I preferred the square, front setup like this, but honestly had a hard time finding them anywhere without having to piece it all together myself. Most square setups you see are the rears and tend to be on first gens.

I ended up waiting and shopping and eventually decided to go with the staggered look and found a great deal on mine. If I was still in the market for square front, I would probably jump on this deal.

As for pics, I snapped these two on my way to lunch:

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[NorcalFX]

When I first started shopping for GTR wheels I was looking for a square setup as well. Having an AWD it was a concern to be the same on all corners and I wanted to be able to rotate fully. I preferred the square, front setup like this, but honestly had a hard time finding them anywhere without having to piece it all together myself. Most square setups you see are the rears and tend to be on first gens.

I ended up waiting and shopping and eventually decided to go with the staggered look and found a great deal on mine. If I was still in the market for square front, I would probably jump on this deal.

As for pics, I snapped these two on my way to lunch:

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Damn, that looks nice! Did you powdercoat yours black? Huge thanks for the pics!

 

[Eothain]

No problem brother. No, they are the OEM gunmetal color. They throw different colors depending on the lighting. It's rainy here today and the garage isn't too bright. What color is your FX?

 

[NorcalFX]

No problem brother. No, they are the OEM gunmetal color. They throw different colors depending on the lighting. It's rainy here today and the garage isn't too bright. What color is your FX?

Oh nice! My FX is black on black

 

[Eothain]

It would look great with those wheels IMO. Heres an old thread with them on a black FX. I think these are pre drop too.

https://www.infinitiscene.com/search/1/?q=10722-Obsidian-Black-w-GT-R-wheels

 

[NorcalFX]

It would look great with those wheels IMO. Heres an old thread with them on a black FX. I think these are pre drop too.

https://www.infinitiscene.com/search/1/?q=10722-Obsidian-Black-w-GT-R-wheels

haha, that's the exact thread that made me want the GTR wheels!

 

[meme405]

These wheels look fantastic on any car. G35's, G37's, 350z's, FX's even some maxima guys are running them. I've yet to see a car they don't look bomb on.

 

[shadow191]

You're correct that the offset is the centerline to the back pad on a wheel. But your picture is slightly misleading. The +45 means that there is 45mm of space between the centerline of the wheel and the backpad. So when you mount the wheel, it would sit with the centerline 45mm behind the hub face. If you mount a +30 wheel, the centerline would only be 30mm behind the hub face so by default with the same width rim, the outer face would be 15mm further out. I run +0 in rear which means that the centerline of my wheel is lined up with the hub face. If I added a 10 mm spacer and went to -10 offset, the centerline of my wheel would be 10mm past the hub face.

It's tricky because in the offset world, negative offsets stick out further. Best way to remember is the offset is to the inside. So the higher the positive number, the further inside the centerline sits.

Oh! I thought the offset was the distance from rim centerline to where the rim meets the hub? Wouldn't a 50mm offset mean the distance is greater than 45mm?

Sorry, I can't post images or links yet, hoping a text URL will work. I saw some images of 30mm offset vs 45mm, and the distance looks greater as the offset increases.

EDIT: Here's the image I was looking at:

 

[NorcalFX]

You're correct that the offset is the centerline to the back pad on a wheel. But your picture is slightly misleading. The +45 means that there is 45mm of space between the centerline of the wheel and the backpad. So when you mount the wheel, it would sit with the centerline 45mm behind the hub face. If you mount a +30 wheel, the centerline would only be 30mm behind the hub face so by default with the same width rim, the outer face would be 15mm further out. I run +0 in rear which means that the centerline of my wheel is lined up with the hub face. If I added a 10 mm spacer and went to -10 offset, the centerline of my wheel would be 10mm past the hub face.

It's tricky because in the offset world, negative offsets stick out further. Best way to remember is the offset is to the inside. So the higher the positive number, the further inside the centerline sits.

Ahh, I understand what you mean now. Wow, thanks for the great explanation!