Secondary Engine Frame Brace

meme405

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There's a product that's been in development for the past little while which is now ready to see the light of day.

This thread will serve as a feeler thread, and depending on interest may evolve into a group buy.

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What you are looking at is a Secondary engine frame brace for the 2003-2008 FX35 & FX45's. There is no other product like this.

The bar is made of 6061 Aluminum, and will come with all brand new hardware to attach the bar. It's worthwhile to note that different end pieces have been designed for 03-05 bars, and 06-08 bars. So there is an application for both 1.0 and 1.5 FX's, but you will need to let us know which model you have. Both V6 and V8 models are identical.

Couple more pictures:

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Cost of the bar if we can get enough people involved is $250 USD.

Discuss and perhaps let me know if you are interested.

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Worthwhile to note, the bar will come raw finish, it will be up to whoever wants to, if they would like it powder coated or painted.
 

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This raises the question; just how godd@amn loose are our FXs that they would need so much bracing?
Haha LOL my idea......but the problem is that some of us are in to deep not to jump on this. [emoji6] [emoji1]

So it's mounted in front of the hood switc right ?? Is it straight on the underside......doesn't run lower towards the engine in between i mean ?? Just to figure out the room.

Also will the bar be solidt or wil it be finished up with a patern so to say.....as it probably be cnc'd might make it pretty as well.
 
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Not that I'm complaining about another part for our cars, but I don't see how this would be of advantage over front lower lateral or strut tower bar. Isn't the bolt on location just sheet metal that the fender bolts to?
 
No it is the position were you bolt the whole front end on to the body....of course there are more bolts at the Inner bumper side but this is one point.....have (dis)connect these way to many times lol......but i do understand your doubt and theory though.
 
This raises the question; just how godd@amn loose are our FXs that they would need so much bracing?

Well most of the other braces by GT-Spec which you see for the FX are just modified versions of the braces made for the 350z and G35. Nothing was engineered to account for the difference in weight or adjusted to account for the higher location of weight on the FX. If you think about it our FX is just a heavier version of a 350z, so if they require all the GT-spec braces, our FX's will likely require even more than that.

Haha LOL my idea......but the problem is that some of us are in to deep not to jump on this. [emoji6] [emoji1]

So it's mounted in front of the hood switc right ?? Is it straight on the underside......doesn't run lower towards the engine in between i mean ?? Just to figure out the room.

Also will the bar be solidt or wil it be finished up with a patern so to say.....as it probably be cnc'd might make it pretty as well.

Yes mounted in front of the hood switch, and flat underneath. Bar will look exactly as it does in the picture, with the exception that we are looking into possibly getting them engraved with something. Perhaps even individualized.

wht about the other brace above the engine? how much is that so they both match

Good question, i'll see if thats a possibility.

Not that I'm complaining about another part for our cars, but I don't see how this would be of advantage over front lower lateral or strut tower bar. Isn't the bolt on location just sheet metal that the fender bolts to?

No, where this bolts to is not "just sheet metal". This bolts to the front most upper structural member of the vehicle, which is a part of the upper vehicle framing system. I can draw a diagram of the vehicle's important frame points at work tomorrow, but suffice to say this will help torsional rigidity to some degree. Not sure how much, but anything is better than nothing in this department.
 
Well most of the other braces by GT-Spec which you see for the FX are just modified versions of the braces made for the 350z and G35. Nothing was engineered to account for the difference in weight or adjusted to account for the higher location of weight on the FX. If you think about it our FX is just a heavier version of a 350z, so if they require all the GT-spec braces, our FX's will likely require even more

We sell S.U.M.M.I.T. here in holland......wich is called GT Spec in the US but i wonder wich bracing you are talking about cuz the only braces that was the case were the T-bars at the back.....none of the other bars (maybe the X-brace still) have any similarities with the Z. I like summit so it is hard for me to bring them down.......i understand what you are saying though and do not want to bring this down in any way. But for 250 i would at least want something that was thought through then just a squar flat bar.....the ends look nice though.....just needs some detailing at the bar and wonder if engraving will just cut it like that.
Main advance of T6061 is its strenght and ridigty.....that often means you can easaly do stuff i suggested making it even lighter and more pretty and not loosing performance wise.
 
It seems as if a better option would be to combine the functionality of both braces into a single ladder brace and be done with it. I can't think of a better way to handle it than that.
 
I wonder if the gt-spec front lower engine tie brace would provide more stiffening as now you have an upper strut brace and a lower brace working in tandem, instead of two braces high on the frame.
 
Looks cool but my thing is this... you have to remove it every time you go to do work on the FX even more so looks like you would have to remove it when ever you go to remove the engine cover.
 
GT Spec is rebranded SUMMIT; there are lots of similarities between the bars for G/Z/FX. The differences are mostly in mounting points, but for what they brace, it's all similar. The lower engine tie brace from GT Spec does make a huge difference. At the front of the car, there isn't much from the factory to tie it all together. The unibody is obviously very strong, but there isnt' anything between the left and right except for the engine so there is flex there. No idea how much this brace will help, but it should do something. It's not that different than some strut bars for the G/Z that tie the front together. Lots of those available.
 
GT Spec is rebranded SUMMIT; there are lots of similarities between the bars for G/Z/FX. The differences are mostly in mounting points, but for what they brace, it's all similar.

If you put it like that we can also say they are similar with all other brands.... in stead of only producing upper...lower and rear strutbars what competitive companies do they also created tie bar and cross member brace wich they offer for many other brands.....wrx....golf....evo....hell they even made one for my wifes daihatsu (scion Bb) i have those in my hands on a daily basis....yes all look the same and mounting points are different but i think that is just because they figure out something works and stick with it on each of there application. That we might need more to strengthen up our body as much as a G/Z is bacause of the body type.... not due to the material wich is forged also.
 
I guess my point was that the G/Z/FX are all based on the same platform. So big stuff like engine mounting points are the same and some of the suspension mounting points are similar. Since the platforms are similar, the bracing needs would be similar.

I'd be curious to see just how much difference this bar would make. It's basically just another strut bar with closely spaced bolts. I wonder how much this bar would resist twisting and flex. The lower engine brace from GT Spec has a truss and bolts in a couple of different spots so it would resist twisting better. The other front engine braces for G/Z's mount differently and use more spaced out points.
 
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