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- 09 FX50
I'm still running the halogen fogs. the HIDs are unnecessary and I agree with your glare comment - its annoying
Jbaker1121's FX50 FOG LIGHT thread
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I'm still running the halogen fogs. the HIDs are unnecessary and I agree with your glare comment - its annoying
Huh?
I have 3000k HID fogs, and the only thing I can think of when you guys say glare, is the burning of my corneas if I stare at them dead on for too long.
Also my fogs are pure yellow, I have no idea how you see white in something that is burning at a yellow colour temperature.
Also I wouldn't say HID's are unnecessary, when driving non-lit backroads and such, the brightness of the HID fogs is extremely useful for lighting up the ENTIRE road.
There are countless members on here with HID fogs, and I don't know of any besides J-baker (who it appears never even had them), who has commented and said they aren't great... If you don't want to spend the money on them because it costs atleast a 100+ bucks more than just buying bulbs thats fine, but don't start spreading false information bashing them.
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I can't help but wondering why J has a different thread for almost every piece of his vehicle... Whats next a thread on your B-pillar trim?
There was no reason this could not have all been in your personal build thread or garage...
I have 3000k HID fogs, and the only thing I can think of when you guys say glare, is the burning of my corneas if I stare at them dead on for too long.
Also my fogs are pure yellow, I have no idea how you see white in something that is burning at a yellow colour temperature.
Also I wouldn't say HID's are unnecessary, when driving non-lit backroads and such, the brightness of the HID fogs is extremely useful for lighting up the ENTIRE road.
There are countless members on here with HID fogs, and I don't know of any besides J-baker (who it appears never even had them), who has commented and said they aren't great... If you don't want to spend the money on them because it costs atleast a 100+ bucks more than just buying bulbs thats fine, but don't start spreading false information bashing them.
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I can't help but wondering why J has a different thread for almost every piece of his vehicle... Whats next a thread on your B-pillar trim?
There was no reason this could not have all been in your personal build thread or garage...
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lol.
1. I had HIDs on my FX35 - two sets in fact. So I am fine with "spending the money" to get HIDs. I was rocking them back in 2007 when I first joined iS. Since you've only been here since 2012 you probably never saw my old FX on here - feel free to educate yourself.
2. The HID lights in a halogen fog housing DO IN FACT GLARE unless you buy cutoff shields for the bulbs - even then there will be glare. Not sure how often you're at a distance from your car while the HID fogs are on, but HIDs scatter light all over when in a halogen housing like the foglight housing. You know when you see those old hondas with super bright HIDs that blind you from the glare? That's what the HIDs in the foglight housings also do.
3. Sometimes the HID bulbs purchased to be yellow will not be yellow enough and will appear white. Obviously this differs from kit to kit, but true Yellow will be closer to 2000k and not 3000k. So although the light may appear to be yellowish there is white in there. (hard to get true yellow without using vinyl over the lens) - even the Halogen bulbs I'm running aren't true yellow, and have white in them...but I hate the look of yellow vinyl on the fog lights on this type of car.
4. My current Halogen bulbs paired with the factory bi-xenons give me better vision at night than my old FX's lighting setup did (bixeneon 6000k; HID 6000k) - this is why I said they are "unnecessary" plus yellow light helps more in short-range fog and rain/snow than for distance or 'lighting up the road'
5. I have a different thread for different "projects" for easier searching and better organization, instead of being all in one thread (plus I started doing this before garages existed on the site) so you don't need to flip through pages and pages to get to a certain update or section. I see "no reason" why I can't do that - it's convenient. It's not like I'm posting the same old threads that people put up instead of searching (like another spacer thread).... these are all here to provide information for future FX owners as well as to show my progress with my FX. It's always annoying to have to flip through hundreds of pages of a build thread to get to that one point you think you remember seeing, even after you tried searching. This makes it less of a hassle.
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santiagodraco
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- 2010 FX 50s
I'm pretty sure that your attitude could have been left at your garage as well. It's a bit odd that your first post in this thread is you acting like there was some kind of personal attack at you ostensibly because you have HID fogs and then throwing out a very obvious personal attack of your own. It's not a very productive approach.
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yeah, mine are a bit better than the OEM fogs at general output but not by much.
I know, right. Like he was personally offended I don't like HIDs.... lmfao. Sorry?
santiagodraco
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Back to the thread...! One of my fogs finally went out this week as a matter of fact. I ordered the stock replacements but came here to get some ideas. I'm debating on going HID but haven't decided. Thinking about the Morimoto 55 watt 4300k kit.... Decisions decisions!
Calling me out because I have only been on here for 2 years? As if I should treat you like some god, just because you have been a member for longer? Yes I have seen your old FX thread, since you bumped it, "because it might be useful for others".
I did not mean for my post to seem like a personal attack, I was just typing what came into my head and maybe that was more aggressive than necessary. Sorry.
Also 2000k is orange on the colour temp chart, not yellow.
As for posting a different thread for different things. Fine, I just figured I would mention it as I don't think it is helpful at all (using the search function, people would be able to narrow down their search and find any information necessary regardless). I more so pointed it out because when you had your wheel thread going, you would bump one thread with new pictures, then immediately bump your garage with the information as well, kinda redundant no?
Again, sorry to J-Baker, I didn't mean for it to be all personal, The first part of my post was just me typing my thoughts. The second part was something that I havn't liked for awhile.
They were two completely separate things and my intention was never to launch a personal attack.
This:
Search on IS regarding 55W HIDs, and you will see that people have melted, fog light and damaged their headlight housings with them. I would advise against it.
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Not a call-out - just stating a fact and relating it to your statement that I never had HIDs. (since you were not on here when I had my FX35 so I assumed you hadn't been familiar with it)
We're actually both a bit off. The true "JDM/GDM Yellow" is about 2250k. Just enough amber with just enough yellow/white to it. At 3000K you have a lot of white in there still. Like I said, it's tough to get that color without using a tinted lens like the Jap/German cars that had such lights.
(my Nokya foglight bulbs claim they are 2500K - but are probably around 2750) - I just hate the tinted fog look on the FX. Only certain cars can pull it off imo. Once you go too yellow it takes away from output anyway...so the 2500-3k range is preferred so they actually do something.
FYI I also threw a yellow HID kit in the FX50 and it glared way too much for me. I also wanted the fogs to do something when needed, and since reflected light actually is worse for fog when compared to actual output, I stuck with the halogen. I played around with the Idea of projectors in the fog lens but then they would not really be fog lights anymore....
santiagodraco
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Good call. I've been researching and have seen posts mentioning that issue. I'll do a lot more digging before making any kind of jump in that direction.
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I think we need to get the thread back on track but I'll just say two things.
1. Thanks for the apology.
2. Personally I'd much rather have threads specific to topics like "My Fog Light Journey" that contains useful information in a single on topic thread than "All about my car" that has 10x the posts on 10x the topics. It's a lot easier to find useful information that way imo. I think it's also fine to have both, an "all inclusive" thread where you post info about the latest mod in summary and a separate thread that details that mod for member information. Just my opinion.
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davidcarson48
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Has anyone tried LED bulbs in the fog light housings? I have Nokya 2500K now, but I'm growing a little tired of them. I'm of the opinion that the fog lights aren't doing much more than adding a little sporty cosmetic look to the front end. I'm considering doing 5000K LEDs to match my Osram CBI headlights.
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the LEDs will have essentially no actual output, I tried a 16LED tower type bulb in them...
waketripper
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- 2009 FX35 AWD
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- CHRIS
JDM advertises these as HID equivalent LEDs, although I have no personal experience with them
http://store.ijdmtoy.com/High-Power-LED-Conversion-Kit-For-Fog-Headlights-p/20w-led-hl.htm
http://store.ijdmtoy.com/High-Power-LED-Conversion-Kit-For-Fog-Headlights-p/20w-led-hl.htm
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davidcarson48
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Man, for $140 I hope those look good!
I hear what you guys are saying, but I'm curious. Some new cars (we have a few 2014 Tahoes at work) with LED fogs/running lights that are extremely bright. LED technology has come a long way, if you stay away from cheap eBay stuff.
Something like this is rated at 725 lumens and RSX forums are happy with it. Considering I don't think I've ever had usable light from OE fog lights, I might try these to match the headlights. Can't hurt.
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/H11-XenonDepot-LED-Fog-Light-Bulbs-p/xd-h11-led.htm
I hear what you guys are saying, but I'm curious. Some new cars (we have a few 2014 Tahoes at work) with LED fogs/running lights that are extremely bright. LED technology has come a long way, if you stay away from cheap eBay stuff.
Something like this is rated at 725 lumens and RSX forums are happy with it. Considering I don't think I've ever had usable light from OE fog lights, I might try these to match the headlights. Can't hurt.
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/H11-XenonDepot-LED-Fog-Light-Bulbs-p/xd-h11-led.htm
Can't hurt, if you're not counting on them to do much. I've replaced most of the bulbs in my house with LED's and they work great. On cars, it's a slightly different application, but they are the wave of the future. Other than Audi, I don't think the other manufacturers have great output from their LED headlights. I've seen the patterns and it's not great, HID would be better for most of them.
But for foglights, just do it.
But for foglights, just do it.