Tire Poll

Need DRY/wet Tires

  • BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Kumho Ecsta SPT

    Votes: 3 4.1%

  • Yokohama Parada Spec-X

    Votes: 32 43.2%

  • Proxes ST II

    Votes: 7 9.5%

  • Nitto NT555

    Votes: 3 4.1%

  • Hankook Ventus ST RH06

    Votes: 19 25.7%

  • General Grabber UHP

    Votes: 2 2.7%
  • Total voters
    74
gto

gto

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Making a poll cuz I'm looking for a broad based review from the board.
I'm in the market for some sneaks, but I'm on the fence on what to get. I dont want any snow performance. Dry + a little wet is what I need. Size is gonna be 285/35/22.
I think BF's are the choice, but their pricey, & I gots many bills these days. Scorps are also good performers, but up there too. So that leaves on the moderate, all the others. I sorted them by price.
The ones rated as summer/performance on 1010 tires are BF, Kumho & Nitto . . so that's something to consider, as that's all I really want.
Milage is not a concern as I dont drive all that much.

Whatcha guys think I should get?
please post some review comments if you can also.
Keep in mind that emphasis is all about handling the dry stuff, yet budget also.

Thanks in advance

-D

(staff: Gonna stick it for a few days, cuz I'm showing threads, thx)
 
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woulda suggested the yoko advan st's, there friggin incredable traction & make the paradas look like crap in comparison, car is glued to the ground even in the wet stuff, very impressive, hard cornering at higher speeds without any hint of slip at all, but def not budget friendly so...
 
I would highly recommend the Toyo Proxes ST II. I do not have a single complaint.

Much smoother than the BF, IMO. They also last longer than 20K miles, unlike the BF.

The Proxes ST II handle excellent in dry and wet conditions...with a great grip (I have the factory 20" rims... though I doubt their 285/35/22 would handle much different).

I have not tried them in snow yet, so I can't speak to the snow performance.
 
All good, thx John. I'll look into them also.
Guys, if you vote, please post your comments pro & con for your choice.
Appreciated.

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Holyfield said:
I would highly recommend the Toyo Proxes ST II. I do not have a single complaint.

Much smoother than the BF, IMO. They also last longer than 20K miles, unlike the BF.

The Proxes ST II handle excellent in dry and wet conditions...with a great grip (I have the factory 20" rims... though I doubt their 285/35/22 would handle much different).

I have not tried them in snow yet, so I can't speak to the snow performance.
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So compared to BF, you're saying the Proxes II are as good in the dry? I thought the KDW's were king for traction.
 
I've had the Paradas prior to the Hankook RH06. I dont have much road time with the RH06, as its only been about a week. I was happy with the Paradas, I would take corners hard every chance or fwy onramps I would just down shift and take the turn as hard as I could and it stuck every time. Maybe thats why the gtspec bar is cracking? lol
 
I have Yoko Paradas on my 22s and very happy so far. Silent, MUCH more comfortable (even when compared to 20" Pirelli snows) and handles well.. I've driven them both on heavy rain and dry, no issues so far.. Hankooks should be very good as well but I personally like the look of the Paradas better.. Not really partial with look of Hankook's thread and sidewall design..
 
gto said:
& before Yokes you had RSA's?
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Yeah RSA on the stockers and the axis shines - then upgraded to the Yokos when I got the Axis Mods

EG3 said:
I have Yoko Paradas on my 22s and very happy so far. Silent, MUCH more comfortable (even when compared to 20" Pirelli snows) and handles well.. I've driven them both on heavy rain and dry, no issues so far.. Hankooks should be very good as well but I personally like the look of the Paradas better.. Not really partial with look of Hankook's thread and sidewall design..
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+1 I do like the pattern on the Yoks more than the RH06.
 
gto said:
All good, thx John. I'll look into them also.
Guys, if you vote, please post your comments pro & con for your choice.
Appreciated.

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So compared to BF, you're saying the Proxes II are as good in the dry? I thought the KDW's were king for traction.
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The handling of both is comparative IMO. Proxes are known to be more durable. One of the biggest complaints with the BF's is that they are 'too soft', which is why they have such excellent grip/handling, but also the tread wears down very quickly.
 
I am pretty happy with the performance and price of the RH06's. Iv'e tried to make them squeel in the corners and they just grip like I'm on rails. They can be had for a good price too. And with a 420 wear rating they last for a good whileas well:tup::tup:.
 
I have only experience with 275/45/20 Hankook RH06...twice.
First set was on my '03 FX and now again with my '07 FX.
This should tell you which tires I recommend! :wink:
 
A lot seem to go 285/35/22.

I personally went with 265/40/22 to get more sidewall height, it's closer to OEM height, and the tires are cheaper.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-26...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

I bought these tires from this seller $688 shipped to your door.

Here are my two cents on your tire choices:
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW 2 - best handling dry/wet tire of your choices. 300 AA A, so doesn't last too long and many reviews say it gets very loud after 10,000 miles. Probably will only last you 20,000 miles.

Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico - 420 AA A, but I've driven on these before and they might be as sticky to get the "AA" rating, but the sidewall doesn't feel stiff enough. These are what I consider a great "highway" tire. Lasts long, not directional, quiet, and luxury soft ride.

Kumho Ecsta SPT - 320 AA A, I've read too many horror stories on Kumho tires, so I personally stay away. They could be great tires, but I've never been brave enough to try it.

Yokohama Parada Spec-X - 420 A A, all around good tire and also great all-season (good in snow).

Proxes ST II - don't know much about this new tire, but I like this much better than the old proxes (tread design)

Nitto NT555 - I think TrainerKen is the only one I know with this tire. He has them on his Element 114 wheels. These look like a high end tire

Hankook Ventus ST RH06 - 420 A A, my tire of choice. I initially tried this tire out because it was the cheapest one I could find that was a name brand. Ended up being the best tire I've owned and have purchased 3 sets of these so far and even their winter tire.

You could try out the:
General Grabber UHP 300 A A $177
or
Sumitomo HTR Sport H/P 480 A A $195
both on tire rack

I have a set of tires (265 40 22 Goodyear Fortera SL Edition) I'm going to try out next. I bought them due to the 500 A A long treadwear and excellent ratings on tirerack.com
 
Nice review, & I see the Hankooks are winning big in the poll. Could be due to the aggressive pricing too. I also like the look of the nittos, but reviews on the net are mixed. Seem like most feel they dont grip well out of the hole.But could work well on the FX with all the weight.

I need to go 285 at the min., cuz my offset isnt very aggressive. I need a bit of bulge.

Chedman, How do you feel they the Hankooks compare as far as dry grip?
 
gto said:
Nice review, & I see the Hankooks are winning big in the poll. Could be due to the aggressive pricing too. I also like the look of the nittos, but reviews on the net are mixed. Seem like most feel they dont grip well out of the hole.But could work well on the FX with all the weight.

I need to go 285 at the min., cuz my offset isnt very aggressive. I need a bit of bulge.

Chedman, How do you feel they the Hankooks compare as far as dry grip?
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I think where the Hankooks excel is wet grip, feels like you're on rails due to the huge V and grooves. The noticable difference between the Hankooks and old Proxies is that the grooves are huge going out the side of the tire, preventing hydroplanning, which the old proxies I've heard had issues with.

Dry grip is excellent and never had an issue. I took some hard turns at 60 mph and never slipped on curves -- I was testing the GT Spec braces and could definitely feel the difference.

I would say that the 300 rated tires AA or even A will be better than the Hankooks on dry though because I felt a few of the tires at the tire shop and the hankooks are notceably harder compound. That explains why I've ran RH06's up to 70,000 miles on my QX4 and still had 6/32" thread on my FX45 at 50,000 miles.

Since you are in a warm weather state, a true summer only tire might be a good choice, like the General Grabber UHP 300 A A (which no one has tried). Almost looks like a "cheaper" BFG. Have to admit the Kumho's also look enticing with their AA rating and cheap price.

I"ll post this again, it's off the Pirelli website, shows a general idea of summer, all-season, vs winter tires:
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Throwing more into the mix huh? :confused:
I'll look around on the net & see what I can find. Ventus seems like a same choice though for sure.
 
gto said:
Throwing more into the mix huh? :confused:
I'll look around on the net & see what I can find. Ventus seems like a same choice though for sure.
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haha, yeah -- just to make your head spin:smile:

One pointer someone told me, print out any price you find online, and typically a local person tire place will try to match it -- and might even throw in cheaper install.
 
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