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DodgeDanger

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Sup Guys,

After helping Jumbosrule bleed his brakes and saw how sick a BBK setup is on an FX I decided to start doing some research on getting a kit of my own. I am trying to buy a house by the end of the year and I am on a semi-strict budget (what my girlfriend doesn't know won't hurt her)!!!!! But I was tooling around and ran across KSport.

Has anyone heard of this manufacturer and if so what have you heard? I saw an FX35 kit on ebay for $1500, I would say that is defenitely not breaking the bank on a BBK!!!! Tell me what you think!!!!! I read what I could on a couple of VW threads and they love them but we have a different beast at 4500lbs!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KSPO...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
 
looks very tempting.... maybe they would do a group buy of ~5 buyers
the ebay ads does indicate you can get a 6 piston kit for less!

with the MS cashback, this would be a great deal!!

Im so in the same boat as you DodgeDanger, buying house later this year....
 
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I was doing some research and Ray (from the Netherlands) said this about BBKs
Casted calipers are stronger and more heat and pressure resistant. " Cheaper" brands wich use forged or leightweight aluminium will not give you the best brake performance when you use them hard as casted.
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http://www.infinitifx.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20067&sid=2dae5ce0cdcffedb4a78522c6c4ef11a&start=25

these Ksports are:
Our extreme lightweight caliper comes in differential bore configuration. It is machined from aircraft quality billet, weighs just over 5lbs. each, and has machined in protection grooves for the bridge tubes. Aluminum pistons, high temperature seals, and stainless steel brake pad wear plates are also standard on each caliper design. The opposed piston caliper design greatly improves pad wear and caliper rigidity over the OEM design. The stainless steel brake lines stop expansion under pressure.
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I also found a few scoobie and cars sites that like these brakes....

the ebay seller responded and told me the 6 piston is $50 less (with a 12"rotor)
 
Well I called a distributor to inquire about a group buy; but I had to leave a message so I am awaiting the call back, also to get the price on the rear brake kit......

They apparently are a Suisse company who have been producing brakes and suspensions since 95'. They have a few KSport project cars out on the Euro drift circuit that are doing pretty well. They don't have anything for us in regards to suspension (mainly coilovers for VW's\Civics etc....).

I will be looking into it further by infiltrating the euro tuner community for some Q&A........ In fact I think our resident Dutch supporter maybe able to comment on the MFG....

Agreed; VERY TEMPTING!!!!!!!!!

They do have a cool APEX\KSport dash cam drift video

YouTube- Apex Performance KSport V8 Skyline - Winning Round 2 of EDC

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theMerchant said:
I was doing some research and Ray (from the Netherlands) said this about BBKs
http://www.infinitifx.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=20067&sid=2dae5ce0cdcffedb4a78522c6c4ef11a&start=25

these Ksports are:


I also found a few scoobie and cars sites that like these brakes....

the ebay seller responded and told me the 6 piston is $50 less (with a 12"rotor)
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Awesome... I was posting while you were posting :rofl:.......... Thanks for the insight!!!! Not a bad price at all for a BBK!!!! I will have to think about this!!!!!
 
John are you heading out to FreakmontX this weekend? let me know if your are. I just got back in town this week, I'm thinking about heading out. but let me know if you're going.
 
Darryl, I won't be able to make it. I'm actually having clear bra installed on that day. I had my front end painted a month ago, which is the suggested waiting time before installation. I've been driving like a granny to avoid rock chips. I can't take it any more. Need to get it done. Take some pictures if you go. It's funny how it seems there is only 2 of us representing Norcal....haa haa.
 
K Sport has positive reviews on all applications I have found via google. They also have a matching rear kit too, so both out the door is around $3,000.

I would not go smaller than 13" in the front because OEM is around 12.6". Rear rotor is a tad larger than 12" (I think 12.2"), so would still get the 13" rear too.
 
Ok Gents,

I just spoke with the distributor and this is what he relayed to me:

  • 8 Piston Front
  • 6 Piston Rear
  • $1539 Front 13"
  • $1739 Rear 13" (Give or take)
  • $3000 for Front and Back :biggrin: (Less than Brembo fronts alone)
  • $100 more for Color Change so don't worry about a limited option
  • He maybe able to work out a group by if we have enough commited and ready to buy so the above price may change
  • The guy (Evan) has them on his 240sx and he loves them and I have seen nothing but positive reviews.
Thanks for the insight on the Aluminum cast calipers!!! I don't think alot of us are tracking that often so I think the KSport will be a good addition to our rides!!:tup:

I think I will pull the trigger on this in a few weeks so think about it!!!!!:wub:

Oh Also; The actual vendor is going to link up on the scene to answer any questions that we may have which will be a good resource to turn to as well.

I guess I did my part guys!!!!!!!!
 
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Question for the vendor if he/she does look at this post....

Any tech specs, specifically templates for caliper/wheel clearance? Hoping they will fit OEM 20's without spacers.
 
theMerchant said:
I dont think you can fit any BBK w/o spacers on the stock 20s ... IMO
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Wilwood BBK fit OEM 18's and 20's. Unfortunately after the person who spearheaded creating the first one passed away and it never came to market. There is at least one wilwood kit out there for the FX.
 
Thanks for the great info DodgeDanger. That is still a lot more than what Turbocad has worked out for the FX50 kit. I know this kit is 8 & 6 pistons, which is substantially larger than the FX50 kit. However, is there really a $1000 difference when street driving? If there is a better price for group buy, I would consider.
 
Airvtec said:
Thanks for the great info DodgeDanger. That is still a lot more than what Turbocad has worked out for the FX50 kit. I know this kit is 8 & 6 pistons, which is substantially larger than the FX50 kit. However, is there really a $1000 difference when street driving? If there is a better price for group buy, I would consider.
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Great question. No, these are small 8 piston and small 6 piston. Many variables involved, so can't go based on number of pistons alone. There are many 4 pistons that will have a larger caliper and rotor than a small 8 or 6 piston.

Street driving, not a $1,000 difference. Both BBK will be much better than OEM. I think the K Sport caliper and rotors look nicer. But then again you can always paint the FX50 caliper and change the rotors.

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theMerchant said:
I know Ksport makes smaller diameter rotors that will take a smaller caliper....
that maybe the trade off...
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I called K Sport and they said they are trying to get the specs but doesn't think the distance to the wheel spoke will differ enough between the kits. They think they will clear OEM 20's, but it was a guess.

If you look at the 6 piston AP Racing, it's 1.49" of clearance needed. The 4 piston AP Racing, it's 1.52" (these are off their templates).

I would have thought the opposite, so this just solidifies, without specs, there is no way to tell based on # of pistons.
 
^^^I talking about the rotor size....14 - 13 -12 - inch

The fronts are tempting since you can get cash back from microsoft....also the FX50 brakes are a GREAT deal.

I will probably keep the rear stock for now when I do make a decision on these....

Dodgedanger, it would be awesome if you could give some personal feedback if you get the Ksports first!
 
THIS IS ALL I FOUND THUS FAR!!!!!!


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  1. <LI class=style4>Please remove the 12 screws from the rotor/ mounting bell assembly. <LI class=style4>Please mount the disc/ mounting bell assembly onto the hub using the 12 screws provided. <LI class=style4>Please make ABCD shown in figure below have the same distance as each other by using calibrated scale. (The tolerance can not exceed 0.05m/m) <LI class=style4>Please tighten the 12 screws and torque them to 14-17 N-M. <LI class=style4>Verify if the tolerance of ABCD is within 0.05m/m.
  2. The vibration of the vehicle will occur while the car is moving if the tolerance exceeds 0.05m/m.
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There are few certain original manufacturers who produce the lower control arm should be had different tolerance. In order not to touch the wheel which have difference design with our caliper, our engineer for the brake system production line who produce our brake system will more near with the original lower control arm. Due to this reason above, when you fit our brake kit, you may meet the condition of hit your lower control arm with our caliper.

There is a solution as below:
Please put the same thickness washers on the OE caliper mounting and OE disc mounting; please see the pic A and B. Please note each and every washer should have the same thickness and the numbers as well. Afterwards, please fit our caliper mounting and disc, the problem shall be settled.

Remarks:
You could use our washer which in the tool bag or you could find the same thickness washer by yourselves.</SPAN>



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  1. <LI class=style4>The spec of the caliper of 8 pot brake system for front is same as that of AP 6 pot brake system for front.

    <LI class=style4>But its width is smaller than width of AP 4 pot caliper, the edge of caliper as far as it does not touch the rim. (Figure 1)

    <LI class=style4>The volume of master cylinder of 8 pot brake system kit is same as that of AP 6 pot brake system; therefore, you don’t have to worry about the distance of brake pedal being too far.

    <LI class=style4>AP: CP3215D50 and FERODO: FRP216 can be fitted onto our kit.

    <LI class=style4>The reason why the number of piston on the our caliper is altered from 6 pot to 8 pot is that brake pads enable to sustain more pressure points so the rotors can bear the force evenly.

    <LI class=style4>Our front 8 pot brake system kit for front can fit the wheel which is 17” or above, you don’t have to be concerned for the problem with fitting. If our front 8 pot brake system kit could not fit, than AP 4 would not suit for sure.
  2. One of features of our front 8 pot brake system kit is that the number of piston on the caliper is more than other brands. In addition, our brake rotor is designed particularly based on racing spec; its thickness is 32mm. So these features are selling points. (Figure 1)
FIGURE 1K-SPORT 8 POT FRONT BRAKE KITEndlessWidthA8-b.gifsize.jpg

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  1. The spec of our 6 pot caliper for rear is same as that of AP 4 pot caliper for rear.
    <LI class=style4>But its width is smaller than width of AP 4 pot caliper, the edge of our caliper does not touch the rim as far as possible. (Figure 2)

    <LI class=style4>The volume of master cylinder of our rear 6 pot brake system kit is same as that of factory single pot brake system kit; therefore, you don’t have to worry about the distance of brake pedal being too far.

    <LI class=style4>AP CP3894D51 or FERODO FRP 3054 brake pads can be fitted onto our 6 piston brake system kit for rear.

    <LI class=style4>The reason why the number of piston on our caliper is altered from 4 pot to 6 pot is that brake pads enable to sustain more pressure points so the rotors can bear the force evenly.

    <LI class=style4>Our rear 6 pot brake system kit for rear can fit the wheel which is 17” or above, you don’t have to be concerned for the problem with fitting. If our rear 6 pot brake system kit could not fit, than AP would not suit for sure.

    <LI class=style4>One of features of our rear 6 pot brake system kit is that the number of pistons on the caliper is more than other brands. In addition, our brake rotor is designed particularly based on racing spec; its thickness is 32mm. So these features are selling points.
  2. The design of many OE rear brake systems is external disc with internal drum handbrake so the problem with fitting 330mm rotors may occur; we herewith provide 3 solutions to this issue: * Fitting 356mm rotors instead.
    * Removing the handbrake from the vehicle, than fitting 330mm rotors.
    * The handbrake is ineffective by doing number 2, in order to enable it to work again, you could consider installing our hydraulic handbrake onto the vehicle.
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