First off, I have been through many tire threads on this site and some others. My 2010 FX35 will need new tires in about 3000 miles or so. I have the 20" rims. I've come down to probably 4 choices. The Yokohama Parada Spec X is the most affordable, but no treadlife warranty. Many of you here, and other sites, report the Paradas last about 35k-40k miles. That's not very long, maybe 2.5-3 years of driving. I am also looking at the Yokohama YK580, Nitto NT 421Q, and Hankook Ventus ST RH06. The YK580 are sold only at America's Tire/Discount Tire and have a 60k warranty. The salesguy told me the Nittos are new and he has not installed any yet, so no feedback, but they have a 75k warranty. And the Hankooks are fairly priced and have a 50k warranty. Any of you have any real life experience with these tires, or have a suggestion I haven't considered. My tires now are the Bridgestone Dueler H/P 92A. Don't know how many miles these have run; bought the FX used. Thanks! :alien:
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- Thread starter r3bman
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Why would you want a 75K tread life? Have you ever driven a car with tires that hard? It's ridiculous; terrible traction, noisy, etc. I'd be happy with 40k on tires, I'm happy at 20K. 75K is like half the life of a car. I could see putting tires with 75K life on a rental car or delivery car that's being driven for work. But for a car that you'd like to enjoy, I'd happily trade off the treadwear for a better tire. On my other car, I'm about to replace the tires in rear at ~10K and it's totally worth it because the car is a blast.
I used to drive a company car at my previous job, it came with 75K tread life tires. I hated those tires every day for 3 years. The car sucked too, but the tires were a big part of why. Having said that, the Hancook's aren't bad.
I used to drive a company car at my previous job, it came with 75K tread life tires. I hated those tires every day for 3 years. The car sucked too, but the tires were a big part of why. Having said that, the Hancook's aren't bad.
Shadow has a point. It's better to have a set of tires that will do their job over a set of tires that will take a very long time to wear but have very little performance on everyday driving. You don't need high performance, just something in the mid range.
I've had tires that would last 70K before, I was scared to drive my car because they didn't really have much grip. The rubber was way too hard and any maneuvering would cause the car some slippage. Especially on wet roads.
Think of it this way, would you rather pay for tires and have them save your ass when a situation exists or do you prefer to pay your insurance when your tires couldn't help you get out of a tight situation? Not to mention the pain you'll have when your accident free car is now squeaky and rusty? Not to mention it being on the car's record with a lower resale value.
There's a simple science behind tires and unfortunately there's no magic to it. All season tires aren't bad, but there's no such tire that will be the best in both worlds. Being soft during the winter and hard during the summer, having long life in the summer but great traction in the winter. It's like shampoo and conditioner in one, how can you remove dirt/grease and put it back, in one shot? End result is half clean/half dirty hair. Same with tires, there's no magical tire that will work in both worlds especially being long life and super grip. It's one or the other
I'm looking for a set of tires as well and I've come down to only two options, the Bridgestone Dueler H/P 92A and the Yokohama Parada Spec-X. Honestly there's not many decent tires to choose from in the 265/50/20 tire size, I mean yes there's options, but most of those tires are either directional, made in places that I don't trust, have issues like cupping, noisy, lose balance easily, squeal on slow turns, etc. Over the years on the various cars I've owned, I have always trusted tires made in Japan. Directional tires can't be rotated properly so you will either get cupping at some point, or you'll end up changing them early. I had a set of Yokohama's, can't remember the model but they were directional. Great at first, but towards the end, they were cupping. Since then Yokohama has dropped that tire off the market which is why I can't find it today.
I've had tires that would last 70K before, I was scared to drive my car because they didn't really have much grip. The rubber was way too hard and any maneuvering would cause the car some slippage. Especially on wet roads.
Think of it this way, would you rather pay for tires and have them save your ass when a situation exists or do you prefer to pay your insurance when your tires couldn't help you get out of a tight situation? Not to mention the pain you'll have when your accident free car is now squeaky and rusty? Not to mention it being on the car's record with a lower resale value.
There's a simple science behind tires and unfortunately there's no magic to it. All season tires aren't bad, but there's no such tire that will be the best in both worlds. Being soft during the winter and hard during the summer, having long life in the summer but great traction in the winter. It's like shampoo and conditioner in one, how can you remove dirt/grease and put it back, in one shot? End result is half clean/half dirty hair. Same with tires, there's no magical tire that will work in both worlds especially being long life and super grip. It's one or the other
I'm looking for a set of tires as well and I've come down to only two options, the Bridgestone Dueler H/P 92A and the Yokohama Parada Spec-X. Honestly there's not many decent tires to choose from in the 265/50/20 tire size, I mean yes there's options, but most of those tires are either directional, made in places that I don't trust, have issues like cupping, noisy, lose balance easily, squeal on slow turns, etc. Over the years on the various cars I've owned, I have always trusted tires made in Japan. Directional tires can't be rotated properly so you will either get cupping at some point, or you'll end up changing them early. I had a set of Yokohama's, can't remember the model but they were directional. Great at first, but towards the end, they were cupping. Since then Yokohama has dropped that tire off the market which is why I can't find it today.
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- 2004 Infiniti FX35 Supercharged
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Sorry to resurrect this old thread but I have the same exact question. 2010 FX35 with OEM 20" wheels, still stock Dueller tires from when I purchased it brand new in 2010. As I'll be trading in the car at some point in the next 5 years or so, I'd prefer to get some solid all season tires that provide good traction in winter and aren't noisy that can stay on the car when I trade it in/sell it. I live in MN so have to deal with hot summers and cold winters with ice/snow.
I realize my best bet would be to get dedicated winter tires, but would have a hard time trading it in/selling it with winter tires considering most people don't own 2 sets of wheels/tires for their vehicles.
Any suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
I realize my best bet would be to get dedicated winter tires, but would have a hard time trading it in/selling it with winter tires considering most people don't own 2 sets of wheels/tires for their vehicles.
Any suggestions/recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
DAM... I wish I was able to get those... They were my first choice but COSTCO was out of stock and had no idea when they'd be getting more in, so I went with my second... DUELER H/P's that had a pretty good rating on Tire Rack... Super quiet and smooth on dry highways, but not so great wet traction... Unable to get the Yokohama's at the moment too which would have been my real second choice...
Thanks for the feedback! What's funny is looking at Discount Tire's website they don't even list the OEM Dueler H/P's, only the Dueler HL Alenza Plus. But looking at Tire Rack, Discount Tire and 1010 Tires, they all have very high marks for the Michelin Premier LTX, especially in winter snow traction which was my main issue with the Dueler H/P's. Their reviews also reflect this in their rankings, the Michelin Premier LTX gets better marks across the board compared against Dueler H/P, Dueler H/L Alenza Plus and Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Plus.
Question: Are there ever sales on the Michelin Premier LTX? Right now Discount Tire has them for $236 each with a $30 rebate (total not per tire) if you open a Discount Tire card. Tire Rack gives you an $80.60 discount (off the total not per tire), not sure if Discount Tire would match that? Basically I need them for this coming winter and am not sure if there is a good/bad time of the year to buy tires if you're looking to get a good deal? Some websites say either in April or October, not sure if there's any truth to this or not.
Dueler H/P:
Light Snow = 6.6
Deep Snow = 5.5
Ice = 4.4
Michelin Premier LTX:
Light Snow = 8.5
Deep Snow = 7.8
Ice = 7.8
Dueler H/L Alenza Plus:
Light Snow = 8.3
Deep Snow = 7.8
Ice = 7.3
Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Plus:
Light Snow = 8.4
Deep Snow = 7.5
Ice = 7.2
Question: Are there ever sales on the Michelin Premier LTX? Right now Discount Tire has them for $236 each with a $30 rebate (total not per tire) if you open a Discount Tire card. Tire Rack gives you an $80.60 discount (off the total not per tire), not sure if Discount Tire would match that? Basically I need them for this coming winter and am not sure if there is a good/bad time of the year to buy tires if you're looking to get a good deal? Some websites say either in April or October, not sure if there's any truth to this or not.
Dueler H/P:
Light Snow = 6.6
Deep Snow = 5.5
Ice = 4.4
Michelin Premier LTX:
Light Snow = 8.5
Deep Snow = 7.8
Ice = 7.8
Dueler H/L Alenza Plus:
Light Snow = 8.3
Deep Snow = 7.8
Ice = 7.3
Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Plus:
Light Snow = 8.4
Deep Snow = 7.5
Ice = 7.2
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I actually got the H/L you're talking about (I get confused quite often nowadays... :P)... Not great handling IMO... The Michelin PREMIER LTX goes on sale locally at COSTCO every spring and winter (all Michelin tires) so I waited for that but they were sold out... I had to get new tires so I ended up going with the DUELER's which I now regret, but I couldn't wait again till Fall, and I'm Asian so I can't buy anything that's not on sale... :P