Steering is sticky/jumpy when stopped/low speed

95maxrider

Member
Car
2007 Infiniti FX35 AWD
Name
Nick
I'm about to purchase a 2011 FX50S with the active steering, and I noticed that when I turn the steering wheel when the car is stationary, or going less than 5 mph, that the steering wheel kind of sticks and feels jumpy. Once moving I don't detect any problems, and I don't hear anything either when stopped.

I'm concerned there may be an issue with the (what I assume to be very expensive) active steering rack, or something else in the active system. Is anyone familiar with this issue?
 
I'm about to purchase a 2011 FX50S with the active steering, and I noticed that when I turn the steering wheel when the car is stationary, or going less than 5 mph, that the steering wheel kind of sticks and feels jumpy. Once moving I don't detect any problems, and I don't hear anything either when stopped.

I'm concerned there may be an issue with the (what I assume to be very expensive) active steering rack, or something else in the active system. Is anyone familiar with this issue?
I haven't heard of people having any issues with the rear active steer.
Maybe a dry steering/dirty power steering fluid issue? PS fluid is often neglected.
You could also just be used to the 1st gen, they feel very different.
 
Hi Nick!

While I don't have an FX50, I'm going to try to see if I can give you pointers. Based on what you wrote, you feel the sticking and jumpiness on the steering wheel itself or on the car's body?

Trying to isolate if the issue is on the front end or the back end of the car. You'll feel these types of issues more when the car is stationary or moving slowly because the wheels will be under more tension with the ground when turning than when the car is moving faster. Basically the rack and pinion has to force the tires to break loose of the ground in a shorter distance versus over a longer distance.

I don't think you have a major issue but I'm going to list out a few things to check or see:

- First thing that usually goes bad on all Infiniti's is the lower u-joint that connect the steering wheel to the rack and pinion. You can see this u-joint if you look through the driver side wheel well above the front axle to the back of the shock/strut/coil. You'll see the rack and pinion and then above it immediately is the u-joint. This u-joint is exposed to the elements and causes the ball bearings to corrode/rust and gets to a point where you can feel a rough/hoppy/jumpy/sticky sensation. These aren't expensive, not a lot of work to replace. I'd consider this almost routine maintenance. For reference, part number is 48080-EG000 for the u-joint and 48935-4P00A for the two bolts. Always use fresh bolts. Never mix rusty bolts with new parts. These come pre-greased but there's not that much grease to keep is from going bad again. When I replaced mine, it looked rusty. I was able to confirm it was bad by doing a few things. a) looked rusty. b) while the front end is up on jacks, car not running, hand above u-joint and have someone turn the steering wheel left or right and see if you feel grinding/popping. Or use a stethoscope or strew driver against it and your ear to hear if it's grinding. That will confirm it. There's another u-joint higher up but that's inside the car under the driver side dashboard and those usually don't fail.

- The rear steering is electronic versus hydraulic as the front steering...looking at the part itself, from what I can see it only moves a few degrees of travel. Can the rear active steering be disabled? I believe there are options to disable it. That way you can isolate the rear from the front and see if it keeps happening and if so, then its the front. I still think it's the part above.

- I doubt it's the balljoints on the front upper and lower control arms because those are designed to have a metal ball that works inside teflon. The eventually loosen up and start popping/knocking over bumps, stops, turns. Worth checking..

- One last thing I'm wondering is if the front rack and pinion is slightly shifting on the front subframe. Mine is a 2012 and all 2012 or earlier had this issue eventually. I had it done under warranty at the time. Basically just needs this new upgraded aluminum mounting plate. The plate was upgraded to include a piece of material that stops the plate from shifting. Nothing expensive, easy to swap. May need an alignment after depending how good the mechanic was in keeping the rack in the same spot. Usually how you check if this is the issue, you put the car in park, hold the brakes firmly and turn the steering wheel left to right and listen if there's a pop sound. For reference, part number is 54442-1CA0B from what I can pull up but definitely double check if you need this replaced.

Hopefully this helps!
 
What a great and informative reply, thank you SCY7H3! I will check all of that stuff. I feel the sensation through the steering wheel and not the body.

I did some more general reading after I made this post and it sounds like I should also check the belt tension for the PS pump. I'm also going to do a PS fluid drain/fill because yeah, I'm sure it's never been done. I'm going to see if revving the engine to 2000 rpm in neutral changes anything when I turn the wheel.
 
anytime! there's a lot of members here with plenty of knowledge and experiences that are more than willing to share.

Whenever I purchase a vehicle, after a general inspection I usually drain and refill all the fluids including the transmission. While the manual states not to change the transmission fluid because it is a sealed design, we all know there's no such thing as a forever oil. The manufacturer of the transmission recommends it to be changed every 50K miles. I personally use Motul oil for the transmission and had no issue but a better experience. This doesn't mean other brands aren't worthy, just that I find this to have been the most talked about. But definitely needs to meet or exceed the manufacturer's specs. Right now, I have motul in everything. Tranmission, engine, differentials, power steering. Coolant I use Infiniti's/Nissan's blue coolant. There's probably better ones but...I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet lol.
 
Yup, I do the same. I'm waiting for my pump with the right fittings so I can do the transmission fluid. I picked up some cheap Valvoline for the first drain and fill on the trans, it will probably get another after I drive it around for a while. I too use Motul wherever I can. Which one do you use for the transmission?

To replace the u-joint between the steering column and the rack, how do you remove it? Do you have to drop the rack to slide it on and off? Maybe that would be a good time to check/replace the mounting plate.
 
anytime! there's a lot of members here with plenty of knowledge and experiences that are more than willing to share.

Whenever I purchase a vehicle, after a general inspection I usually drain and refill all the fluids including the transmission. While the manual states not to change the transmission fluid because it is a sealed design, we all know there's no such thing as a forever oil. The manufacturer of the transmission recommends it to be changed every 50K miles. I personally use Motul oil for the transmission and had no issue but a better experience. This doesn't mean other brands aren't worthy, just that I find this to have been the most talked about. But definitely needs to meet or exceed the manufacturer's specs. Right now, I have motul in everything. Tranmission, engine, differentials, power steering. Coolant I use Infiniti's/Nissan's blue coolant. There's probably better ones but...I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet lol.
Highly recommend the every 50-60k trans fluid change. 132k on my 5.0 and it’s been changed twice since I’ve taken ownership years ago at 50k miles. Butter smooth shifts at all speeds. It really helps the trans!
 
Back
Top