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DESILVAFX35

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Hi IS Family, help needed.

-These are my rims - Status Game 805 Black with Machine Face 22 X 9

- 35 mm offset

-Car has H & R lowered springs.

- tires are NITTO 420S 265/40/22

-What size wheels spacers do I need for both front & back wheels to be flush?

-I will be rolling,Grinding inner back wheel arch.

- My thoughts were 30 mm front & 25 rear based on my measurements from rim to arch.

Thanks- Jonathan
 
As jbaker said, 25 all around will be good. With the roll in the rear, you can do 30 mm all around for an aggressive look.

But I suggest 25 all around.
 
Chedman13 said:
As jbaker said, 25 all around will be good. With the roll in the rear, you can do 30 mm all around for an aggressive look.

But I suggest 25 all around.
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Hi Cheadman13,
Thanks for the info. So am i right in saying that i could do the same MM for F & B, I thought that the front wheels were slightly more in than the rears. Also if i go for 30 mm would the wheels stick out past the arch.

So the safe option would be 25 all round?

Thanks
 
DESILVAFX35 said:
Hi Cheadman13,
Thanks for the info. So am i right in saying that i could do the same MM for F & B, I thought that the front wheels were slightly more in than the rears. Also if i go for 30 mm would the wheels stick out past the arch.

So the safe option would be 25 all round?

Thanks
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I ran 22x9 on +15 offset before. With 25 mm spacers, that like running +10mm spacer for your wheels.

My +15 offset was flush in the front and a little tucked in the rear. So that's strange that your measurements for the front need to go wider.

So that's why if you're 22x9 +10 offset (with 25mm spacer), you will be fine doing this all around, front and rear.

It will be aggressive and maybe a hair more than flush. Should look really nice.
 
Chedman13 said:
I ran 22x9 on +15 offset before. With 25 mm spacers, that like running +10mm spacer for your wheels.

My +15 offset was flush in the front and a little tucked in the rear. So that's strange that your measurements for the front need to go wider.

So that's why if you're 22x9 +10 offset (with 25mm spacer), you will be fine doing this all around, front and rear.

It will be aggressive and maybe a hair more than flush. Should look really nice.
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Hi Cheadman,

My rims are +35 offset not +10 offset. so should i go for 25 mm spacers all round with my +35 offset.

Thanks for your help in this matter
 
DESILVAFX35 said:
Hi Cheadman,

My rims are +35 offset not +10 offset. so should i go for 25 mm spacers all round with my +35 offset.

Thanks for your help in this matter
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Your offset is like +10 with a 25mm spacer.

35-25=10 mm

So my opinion is 25mm spacers all around.
 
Haa, he beat me to explaining. I post mine understanding up anyway

What Ed (Chedman) saying was +35 offset with 25mm spacer on is same as +10 offset.
A 22x9 ET35 wheel, it extend an extra 18 mm, then you add a 25 mm spacer the total extension is 43 mm. Whereas a 22x9 ET10 wheel will extend an extra 43mm.

He ran with 22x9 ET15 extend an extra 38 mm. Your 22x9 ET35 + 25mm spacer will extend an extra 43 mm. So your will extended an extra 5 mm more than his.

His statement "So that's why if you're 22x9 +10 offset (with 25mm spacer), you will be fine doing this all around, front and rear." from his reply was valid. +10 offset is the same as +35 offset with a 25 mm spacer.

So 25mm will be good all around for your 22x9 wheel.
 
la_fx35 said:
Haa, he beat me to explaining. I post mine understanding up anyway

What Ed (Chedman) saying was +35 offset with 25mm spacer on is same as +10 offset.
A 22x9 ET35 wheel, it extend an extra 18 mm, then you add a 25 mm spacer the total extension is 43 mm. Whereas a 22x9 ET10 wheel will extend an extra 43mm.

He ran with 22x9 ET15 extend an extra 38 mm. Your 22x9 ET35 + 25mm spacer will extend an extra 43 mm. So your will extended an extra 5 mm more than his.

His statement "So that's why if you're 22x9 +10 offset (with 25mm spacer), you will be fine doing this all around, front and rear." from his reply was valid. +10 offset is the same as +35 offset with a 25 mm spacer.

So 25mm will be good all around for your 22x9 wheel.
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Understood, thanks guys for explaining and helping. Going to buy the 25mm spacer. will post before & after pics. I been told that the front arch will not need to be rolled/grinded but the rears definitely needed to be.
 
DESILVAFX35 said:
Understood, thanks guys for explaining and helping. Going to buy the 25mm spacer. will post before & after pics. I been told that the front arch will not need to be rolled/grinded but the rears definitely needed to be.
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That's right, front doesn't need to be rolled. Just the rear need to be rolled. I recommend the H&R DRM Series spacer with the stud already mounted. Much simpler to install. No need to deal with longer stud.
 
la_fx35 said:
That's right, front doesn't need to be rolled. Just the rear need to be rolled. I recommend the H&R DRM Series spacer with the stud already mounted. Much simpler to install. No need to deal with longer stud.
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Hi LA fx35, Great thanks for that. OK update, Today I measured the gaps between the FRONT/REAR wheel lip/tire edge to the outer most part of the plastic wheel arch lip

FRONT = 38mm
BACK = 32 mm

So rounding down to be on the safe side I calculated that I need

Ichiba Version 2 - FRONT 35mm
- BACK 30 mm

Based on these figures what I was told off 35mm offset for my wheels has to be incorrect,

Remember the car has H&R lower springs and I will be rolling/grinding the rear wheel arch.

My question to you guys is , what do you think of the wheel spacers that large/safety aspect.

Thanks
 
I would take the wheel off and verify the offset just to be sure. It is regularly imprinted on the back of the wheel. Since your measurement is way difference than what we have calculated. I would check on the offset just to be sure. I don't recall anyone on here ran with such a big spacer.
 
la_fx35 said:
I would take the wheel off and verify the offset just to be sure. It is regularly imprinted on the back of the wheel. Since your measurement is way difference than what we have calculated. I would check on the offset just to be sure. I don't recall anyone on here ran with such a big spacer.
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RIMS ARE A 40mm OFFSET. So based on this and the wheel arch space measurements

FRONT 40 mm offset with 35 mm spacers = 5 mm offset
BACK 40 mm offset with 30 mm spacers = 10 mm offset.

That seems to be a very low offset.
 
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DESILVAFX35 said:
RIMS ARE A 40mm OFFSET. So based on this and the wheel arch space measurements

FRONT 40 mm offset with 35 mm spacers = 5 mm offset
BACK 40 mm offset with 30 mm spacers = 10 mm offset.

That seems to be a very low offset.
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Those spacers are huge. Not sure about them. They definitely give you a really good flush for sure. No experience on the 30/35 mm spacer, don't feel comfortable to comment on them.
 
DESILVAFX35 said:
RIMS ARE A 40mm OFFSET. So based on this and the wheel arch space measurements

FRONT 40 mm offset with 35 mm spacers = 5 mm offset
BACK 40 mm offset with 30 mm spacers = 10 mm offset.

That seems to be a very low offset.
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As la_fx35 said, I would feel uncomfortable recommending spacers that large.

The most I would feel comfortable saying would be:
25mm with press in studs (not extended studs) for front
30mm with press in studs (not extended studs) for rear.

So in your case, I'd still say 25mm front and back. You are already putting stress on your existing studs, pushing them out that farther makes me uneasy.
 
Chedman13 said:
As la_fx35 said, I would feel uncomfortable recommending spacers that large.

The most I would feel comfortable saying would be:
25mm with press in studs (not extended studs) for front
30mm with press in studs (not extended studs) for rear.

So in your case, I'd still say 25mm front and back. You are already putting stress on your existing studs, pushing them out that farther makes me uneasy.
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Hi Cheadman/la_fx35,

Thanks for your valuable input, So the very safe bet is 25 mm all round. As there's slightly more of a gap on the front how would a 30mm front/ 25 Rear mm work,I mean is it ok to have the bigger spacer at the front? If not then I think I 'll go with Either a 25mm front/30mm Rear OR 25 mm all round. Also when you say Press in studs do you mean DRM? Also another option would be to sell the rims and go for 22x10.5 with a 15-20 mm offset with NO need for Spacers.


Thanks for your help

Jonathan
 
No need for spacers is the best way to go, but they are also safely used if done properly (comes stock on some porsches).

And yes, DRM.

Do you have hub centric rings for your wheels? If not, you should buy these instead:
http://www.motorsport-tech.com/wheel_spacers.html

Custom spacers that eliminate the need for hub centric rings. This makes them wheel and hub centric.

I run 25mm custom spacers.

DESILVAFX35 said:
Hi Cheadman/la_fx35,

Thanks for your valuable input, So the very safe bet is 25 mm all round. As there's slightly more of a gap on the front how would a 30mm front/ 25 Rear mm work,I mean is it ok to have the bigger spacer at the front? If not then I think I 'll go with Either a 25mm front/30mm Rear OR 25 mm all round. Also when you say Press in studs do you mean DRM? Also another option would be to sell the rims and go for 22x10.5 with a 15-20 mm offset with NO need for Spacers.


Thanks for your help

Jonathan
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Most ideal is to run without spacers. I know the chain tires shop (Discount Tire) won't work on your car if you have spacers on. I prefer the DRM style, that is with studs already press into the spacer.
 
Chedman13 said:
No need for spacers is the best way to go, but they are also safely used if done properly (comes stock on some porsches).

And yes, DRM.

Do you have hub centric rings for your wheels? If not, you should buy these instead:
http://www.motorsport-tech.com/wheel_spacers.html

Custom spacers that eliminate the need for hub centric rings. This makes them wheel and hub centric.

I run 25mm custom spacers.
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Hi Chedman,

OK so are the H&R DRM hub centric rings the correct ones to buy?
 
DESILVAFX35 said:
Hi Chedman,

OK so are the H&R DRM hub centric rings the correct ones to buy?
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H&R DRM for your FX35 are the right ones to buy.

But your wheels are most likely NOT hub centric. That's why I recommended custom spacers -- but you can only use them with your wheels (unless you find another set with the same hub bore).
 
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